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10NEWDELHI387 2010-02-26 14:09 2011-08-30 01:44 CONFIDENTIAL Embassy New Delhi
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 NEW DELHI 000387 
 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/01/2020 
TAGS: PREL PTER IN PK AF
SUBJECT: MORE ON FEB 25 INDO-PAK TALKS: "NO BREAKDOWN BUT 
NO BREAKTHROUGH" 
 
REF: NEW DELHI 358 
 
Classified By: Political Counselor Uzra Zeya.  Reason: 1.4 (b,d). 
 
1. (U) Summary: Foreign Minister Nirupama Rao told the 
Ambassador on February 26 that February 25 talks with her 
Pakistani counterpart Salman Bashir were a "good first step" 
but that further Pakistani progress on terrorism is needed 
before the GOI will commit to further talks.  Rao described 
the February 26 terrorist attack in Kabul that killed four 
GOI personnel as a complicating factor.  She cautioned that 
Pakistan may try to leverage a resumption of the Composite 
Dialogue, adding that India is not ready for this and wants 
to first "lighten things up" through modest steps on 
humanitarian issues.  The Pakistan Embassy Political 
Counselor told us the talks produced "no breakdown but no 
breakthrough" and that the GOI had rebuffed Pakistan's 
proposal to "pick up the threads of the eight Composite 
Dialogue topics where we had left off" at a senior level with 
a counter-proposal to hold discussion of such topics at a 
"lower level."  PM Singh and his Pakistani counterpart agreed 
last July in Sharm al-Sheikh that their respective Foreign 
Secretaries and Foreign Ministers would meet periodically to 
discuss a full range of issues, and the February 25 meeting 
in New Delhi can be viewed as a cautious step in reactivating 
this process.  While momentum for further talks could be 
stymied by any number of factors, we think it likely that 
Foreign Secretary Rao will visit Islamabad at some point in 
the coming months to explore whether the two countries can, 
as she put it, "build an environment of trust and 
confidence."  End Summary. 
 
FS Rao: Good Start, But Building Trust Takes Time 
--------------------------------------------- ---- 
 
2. (C) Providing a read-out of talks to the Ambassador on 
February 26, Rao admitted the GOI had deliberately lowered 
public expectations in the run-up to the talks because it 
sensed the Pakistanis would arrive with a narrow agenda and 
it "would be a bushel full of thorns."  The Ambassador 
congratulated Rao for a successful round of talks and 
stressed high-level USG support for dialogue.  Rao repeatedly 
characterized the talks as a "good first step" and "a good 
start," adding that the GOI had "opened a window."  Among 
other topics, the parties discussed "small measures" and 
humanitarian issues such as travel, transit, and bus 
transportation across the Line of Control.  She said they 
also talked about possible visits to India by the Pakistani 
Elections Commissioner and railways officials.  She cautioned 
that Islamabad may try to link all of these topics to 
resumption of the Composite Dialogue, but the GOI is not 
ready for such resumption and wishes to first "lighten things 
up" through modest steps on humanitarian issues. 
 
3. (C) She reported that Foreign Minister Krishna had also 
stressed patience in slowly moving the process forward in his 
February 26 meeting with the Bashir delegation.  In that 
meeting, she said the Pakistanis stressed their appreciation 
of PM Singh's commitment to peace.  She said the Pakistanis 
had raised but did not dwell on Kashmir and water issues 
during their February 25 meeting with NSA Menon.  In reply to 
the Ambassador's question of political support for PM Singh's 
initiative to resume talks, she said he currently enjoys 
solid Congress party backing but faces certain criticism from 
the BJP. 
 
4. (C) In answer to the Ambassador's question about whether 
she would accept Bashir's offer of future talks in Islamabad, 
Rao responded that the GOI needs to see more progress from 
Pakistan on terrorism issues.  Pressed for more details on 
what progress is needed, she mentioned the fatal February 26 
attack on Indians in Kabul which killed four GOI personnel 
and left some seven Indians missing and noted that the 
perpetrators could be from among "the usual suspects" of 
Pakistani jihadis, the LeT, or the Taliban.  Rao noted that, 
with the deaths in Kabul, today was "a very bad day for the 
GOI," and Indian public opinion remained "inflamed" regarding 
Pakistan-linked terror against India.  Stating that the two 
sides need to continue to build trust and confidence, she 
 
NEW DELHI 00000387  002 OF 003 
 
 
said Pakistan needs to "show a commitment" to prosecuting 
Mumbai suspects.  She confided that the GOI is concerned that 
the Pakistani position is "hardening."  In a possible 
reference to FM Qureshi, Rao added that Pakistan officials 
also need to tone down unhelpful public statements.  She said 
the GOI does not want the bilateral achievements of 2004-07 
to be diluted. 
 
Pakistan Embassy View 
--------------------- 
 
5. (C) Pakistani Embassy Political Counselor Zulfiqar Gardezi 
told us February 26 that the Pakistani delegation returned to 
Islamabad with the feeling that the talks did not produce 
either "a breakdown or breakthrough" in Indo-Pak relations. 
Gardezi, who was present for most of the Rao - Bashir 
meetings, stated that Pakistan's main point was to stress the 
importance of resuming the Composite Dialogue "and picking up 
the threads of the eight Composite Dialogue topics where we 
had left off" prior to the suspension of Dialogue meetings 
after the November 2008 Mumbai attack.  Gardezi reported the 
GOI responded that India is not ready for resumption of the 
Composite Dialogue, and certainly not at a senior level: 
according to Gardezi, the Indians indicated that they might 
be amenable to future discussion of Composite Dialogue issues 
at a "lower level" (a gambit that, according to some press 
accounts, was rebuffed by the Pakistanis). 
 
6. (C) Gardezi said Bashir raised Kashmir, water issues, and 
Baluchistan as major issues of Pakistani concern, but 
declined to provide details of the GOI response.  When asked 
about Pakistani reaction to the GOI's apparent singular focus 
on terror-related issues, Gardezi asserted that Pakistan has 
"no problem" talking about terrorism with India, adding that 
"we have a few terrorism issues of our own that we want to 
raise with India."  He noted that when Bashir met with Indian 
NSA Menon late February 25 afternoon, the tenor of discussion 
was similar to that of the Rao meeting.  Gardezi 
characterized the Krishna meeting as a "courtesy call." 
 
7. (C) Gardezi emphasized that the two sides had agreed to 
maintain contact, a line repeated by Rao and Bashir in their 
separate February 25 press conferences.  The Pakistani 
diplomat complained that some Indian media coverage of 
Bashir's press statement gave a falsely negative spin to some 
of his comments (one of our media contacts explained Bashir's 
comments as "Bashir saying what he needed to say to keep his 
job back home").  Gardezi offered no information on a 
delegation dinner reportedly hosted last night by the 
Pakistani Ambassador in which Rao is said to have attended, 
and reportedly included amiable and conciliatory remarks. 
 
 
Comment 
------- 
 
8. (C) While there appears to be a lingering media and 
chattering-class perception that USG pressure helped bring 
about the talks, local commentators seem to have forgotten or 
ignored that PM Singh and his Pakistani counterpart agreed 
last July in Sharm al-Sheikh that their respective Foreign 
Secretaries and Foreign Ministers would meet periodically to 
discuss a full range of issues.  Five months after the last 
Indo-Pak ministerial encounter in New York, the February 25 
meeting in New Delhi can be viewed as a cautious reactivation 
of the Sharm process.  Indian officials did a commendable job 
of handling a potentially difficult meeting -- and paving the 
way for future meetings -- by adopting an unstructured agenda 
which allowed Pakistan to raise issues of concern while the 
GOI used statements from Home Minister Chidambaram and Rao to 
keep their public messaging focused focus firmly on 
terrorism.  While momentum for further talks could be stymied 
by any number of factors -- first and foremost, a 
Pakistani-linked terrorist incident in India or Afghanistan 
-- we think it likely that Foreign Secretary Rao will visit 
Islamabad at some point in the coming months to explore 
whether the two countries can, as she put it, overcome "the 
trust deficit" and "build an environment of trust and 
confidence" through "a graduated step-by-step process." 
 
NEW DELHI 00000387  003 OF 003 
 
 
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