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SUBJECT: SFO-GVA-VIII: (U) DEFINITIONS WORKING GROUP MEETING, 
FEBRUARY 19, 2010 
 
CLASSIFIED BY: Rose E. Gottemoeller, Assistant Secretary, Department 
of State, VCI; REASON: 1.4(B), (D) 
 
¶1.  (U) This is SFO-GVA-VIII-068. 
 
 
 
¶2.  (U) Meeting Date:  February 19, 2010 
 
           Time:  3:30 P.M. - 4:30 P.M. 
 
               Place:  Russian Mission, Geneva 
 
 
 
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SUMMARY 
 
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¶3.  (S) At the Definitions Working Group meeting chaired by Mr. 
Siemon and Adm (Ret) Kuznetsov, the U.S. side provided 
U.S.-proposed definitions of "solid-fueled ICBM or solid-fueled 
SLBM,"  "solid rocket motor," "solid rocket motor case," 
"non-deployed launcher of ICBMs" and "non-deployed launcher of 
SLBMs."  In addition, Siemon provided U.S. official translations 
for the Russian proposal to change the term "submarine base," and a 
Russian proposal to replace the term "flight test" with the term 
"launch."  The U.S. side handed over to the Russian side a U.S. 
proposal concerning Heavy Bomber terms.  Siemon also provided 
modified definitions for the terms "non-deployed launcher of ICBMs" 
and "non-deployed launcher of SLBMs," based on the U.S. position 
that soft site launchers would not be counted as non-deployed 
launchers.  End summary. 
 
 
 
¶4.  (U) SUBJECT SUMMARY:  Terms and Definitions Discussed. 
 
 
 
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TERMS AND DEFINITIONS DISCUSSED 
 
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¶5.  (S) Siemon provided the Russian side with the U.S.-proposed 
definitions "solid-fueled ICBM or solid-fueled SLBM," "solid rocket 
motor," and "rocket motor case."  He stated that the definitions 
had been discussed at the previous meeting and he provided the 
translations for the Russian side to consider.  Kuznetsov stated he 
would take the definitions back for study.  Siemon also provided 
the Russian side with the U.S. official translations for the 
proposal of the Russian side on changing the term "submarine base," 
and the proposal of the Russian side on replacing the term "flight 
test" with the term "launch."  Siemon noted that the Russian side 
had added text to include submarines that had been previously 
equipped with launchers of SLBMs but after conversion were no 
longer capable of launching a SLBM and had also deleted the 
formulation "unless otherwise provided for in this Treaty."  He 
asked if Kuznetsov could explain the changes. 
 
 
¶6.  (S) Kuznetsov responded that the sides had discussed an agreed 
statement on the exhibition and inspection of SSBNs converted to 
SSGNs and he believed the Russian-proposed changes reflected the 
obligation in the agreed statement for the inspected Party to show 
the presence of SSGNs on the coastlines and waters diagram of a 
submarine base during an inspection.  Siemon agreed with 
Kuznetsov's remarks regarding the agreed statement, but did not 
believe the added text was required in the definition.  Kuznetsov 
asked Mr. Dean if the Russian-proposed text was necessary to insure 
the right to inspect both the SSBNs and the SSGNs.  Dean assured 
Kuznetsov that the agreed statement spoke for itself and the 
additional Russian text was not required. 
 
 
 
¶7.  (S) Regarding the term "launch," Siemon understood the Russian 
position on the need for the term in the treaty.  However, there 
was a difference in the U.S. and Russian concept of the meaning of 
"flight test" and "launch."  In some cases the terms were used 
interchangeably.  The U.S. side used the term "launch" to define 
the initiation of a flight of a ballistic missile, making it 
awkward to refer to the whole flight of the missile as "launch." 
Kuznetsov acknowledged the U.S. position but did not want to change 
any of the treaty text that was already agreed.  Siemon believed 
the issue required consideration in the Telemetry Working Group. 
 
 
 
¶8.  (S) Siemon inquired about the Russian reaction to a U.S. 
proposal to delete the formulation "with a range of less than 600 
kilometers" within the definitions for "heavy bomber equipped for 
nuclear armaments," "heavy bomber not equipped for nuclear 
armaments, and "nuclear armaments for heavy bombers."  He asked 
Kuznetsov if there was any movement on this from the Russian side. 
Kuznetsov said he understood the U.S. position; however, neither 
the Russian delegation nor Moscow was ready to discuss the issue. 
 
 
 
¶9.  (S) Siemon provided the Russian side with the U.S. proposal 
concerning heavy bomber terms.  The proposal included modified 
definitions for a "deployed heavy bomber," "non-deployed heavy 
bomber" and "test heavy bomber."  Siemon began the discussion with 
the term "test heavy bomber" and indicated this definition provided 
the basis for discussion on the other definitions.  Kuznetsov asked 
if the U.S. side would delete the phrase "equipped for nuclear 
armaments" in the 800 aggregate limit provision on deployed and 
non-deployed ICBMs, SLBMs and heavy bombers in Article II.  Siemon 
indicated that in a meeting earlier that day, Assistant Secretary 
Gottemoeller had said to Ambassador Antonov that the U.S. side 
would drop the phrase "equipped for nuclear armaments" in the 
language describing the 800 limit in Article II, subparagraph 1(c), 
if the Russian side accepted the phrase in these definitions. 
Kuznetsov noted that the offer followed previous discussions on 
non-deployed heavy bombers.  He remarked that the Russian-proposed 
text for these terms that he had planned to provide was no longer 
needed since it paralleled the U.S.-proposed definitions.  He would 
provide the U.S. proposal to his lawyers to determine if the text 
was acceptable. 
 
 
 
¶10.  (S) Siemon noted that the U.S. side did not intend to count 
 
 
soft-site launchers at test ranges and space launch facilities as 
non-deployed under the aggregate limit.  This position and the fact 
that the sides had agreed on the definition of "soft-site launcher" 
required the definitions of "non-deployed launcher of ICBMs" and 
"non-deployed launcher of SLBMs" be modified.  Siemon provided 
Kuznetsov with U.S.-proposed text for the two definitions. 
Kuznetsov asked if the United States intended not to include 
soft-site launchers at these locations whether or not the Russian 
side accepted the proposal.  Siemon replied that the United States 
did not intend to declare soft-site launchers as non-deployed 
launchers. 
 
 
 
¶11.  (S) Kuznetsov stated that he personally thought the 
definitions were fine and no one on the Russian delegation would 
object but he still wanted to take them back for review.  He 
indicated that the Russian side had never intended to include 
soft-site launchers in the aggregate limit. 
 
 
 
¶12.  (S) Siemon believed the seven remaining telemetry definitions 
and the two missile defense-related definitions could not be 
decided until the larger issues had been decided.  He stated that 
the U.S. side would also review the concept of size in the 
definitions of "ICBM base" and "basing area."   He believed the 
U.S. side would have a proposal during the following week. 
 
 
 
¶13.  (U) Documents provided: 
 
 
 
- U.S.: 
 
 
 
 -- U.S-proposed definition of the term "solid-fueled ICBM or 
solid-fueled SLBM," dated February 18, 2010. 
 
 
 
-- U.S-proposed definition of the term "solid rocket motor," dated 
February 18, 2010. 
 
 
 
-- U.S-proposed definition of the term "rocket motor case," dated 
February 18, 2010. 
 
 
 
-- U.S-proposed definition of the term "non-deployed launcher of 
ICBMs," dated February 18, 2010. 
 
 
 
-- U.S-proposed definition of the term "non-deployed launcher of 
SLBMs," dated February 18, 2010. 
 
 
 
-- U.S. Official translation of the Proposal of the Russian 
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Federation on changing the term "submarine base," dated February 
16, 2010. 
 
 
 
-- U.S. Official translation of the Proposal of the Russian 
Federation on replacing the term "flight test" with the term 
"launch," dated February 16, 2010. 
 
 
 
-- Unofficial Russian translation of the Proposal of the U.S. 
concerning "Heavy Bomber Terms," dated February 19, 2010. 
 
 
 
¶14.  (U) Participants: 
 
 
 
UNITED STATES 
 
 
 
Mr. Siemon 
 
Lt Col Comeau 
 
Mr. Connell 
 
Mr. Dean 
 
Mr. Hanchett (RO) 
 
Mr. Taylor 
 
Ms. Zdravecky 
 
Mr. French (Int) 
 
 
 
RUSSIA 
 
 
 
Adm (Ret) Kuznetsov 
 
Ms. Fuzhenkova 
 
Mr. Kamenskiy 
 
Mr. Trifonov 
 
Ms. Komshilova (Int) 
 
 
 
¶15.  (U) Gottemoeller sends. 
KING