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Viewing cable 10BANGKOK319, THAILAND: AMBASSADOR MEETS FORMER PRIME MINISTER
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10BANGKOK319 | 2010-02-05 09:17 | 2011-08-30 01:44 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Bangkok |
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 BANGKOK 000319
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STATE FOR EAP/MLS, NSC FOR WALTON
E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/04/2020
TAGS: PGOV PREL KDEM PINR TH
SUBJECT: THAILAND: AMBASSADOR MEETS FORMER PRIME MINISTER
BANHARN SILPA-ARCHA, DISCUSSES 2010 POLITICAL WAY AHEAD
REF: A. BANGKOK 287 (KING RESUMES VISIBLE ROLE)
¶B. BANGKOK 281 (COALITION PARTNERS SUBMIT PROPOSAL)
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Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reason: 1.4 (b) and (d).
SUMMARY AND COMMENT
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¶1. (C) Summary: The Ambassador met with former Prime Minister
Banharn Silpa-archa on February 4 at Chart Thai Pattana party
headquarters to review the latest political developments.
Countering much press speculation, Banharn told the
Ambassador he never expected the Democrat party to endorse
the constitutional amendment initiative (REF B) and said the
disagreement over the proposal would not affect the stability
of the coalition. Banharn expressed worry that the
government may have "backed Thaksin into a corner" and "gone
too far." Banharn suggested King Bhumibol -- who seemed to
be in much better health -- may have reached the same
conclusion, as many believed His Majesty's recent
exhortations to two separate groups of judges (REF A)
included a plea for the legal system to show Thaksin leniency
in the former PM's pending frozen assets case. Ideally,
Banharn said the RTG would begin to soften its position on
Thaksin in an effort to move towards reconciliation, though
he characterized that possibility as unlikely.
¶2. (C) Comment: Banharn came across as being as relaxed and
sure of himself as ever, despite his December 2008 five-year
ban from politics due to election violations (Note: his
brother now formally heads the CTP party, though Banharn
still calls the shots. End Note.) If Thaksin and Puea Thai
hope to have any chance of dissolving the government through
parliamentary maneuverings, flipping Banharn and his CTP
party would form the heart of any successful strategy. If
Banharn is to be taken at his word, however, it would appear
Puea Thai's no confidence motion has only limited prospects
for success. Banharn's interpretation of the King's recent
comments to judges is not authoritative; Bhumibol's
Delphic-like pronouncements can nearly always be read in
different, even opposing ways by those seeking political
import or advantage. End Summary and Comment.
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT PUSH
-----------------------------
¶3. (C) The Ambassador began the February 4 meeting by asking
Banharn about the Democrat party's refusal to support a
constitutional amendment push. Banharn told the Ambassador
that although he knew the initiative was doomed from the
start, he decided to move forward anyway in an effort to see
whether the Democrat party would be willing to make some
concessions towards the smaller parties in the coalition.
Banharn claimed to the Ambassador that the current
Constitution was crafted for the sole purpose of making life
difficult for former PM Thaksin, who nevertheless still did
as he pleased, and that it needed to be replaced or revised.
Banharn asserted that the 1997 Constitution would be far
superior to the current version.
¶4. (C) When the Ambassador asked Banharn to explain the
fundamental differences between his and Democrat views on
changing the constitution, Banharn said that it boiled down
to a difference of opinion on single seat parliamentary
constituencies. Banharn claimed that while moving from
multi-seat to single seat districts would have little to no
practical effect on his party's prospects moving forward, the
real issue was making MPs more accountable to their
constituencies. Banharn argued that the current system, in
which multiple MPs represented the same electoral district,
made it difficult for even the most discerning voter to
understand who truly represented them. (Note: such a
principled explanation rarely animates the political
decisions of small parties in Thailand. It is more likely
Banharn and CTP have concluded they could be more successful,
and spend less in an electoral campaign, with single-member
districts. End Note.)
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¶5. (C) Banharn said that the Democrats, on the other hand,
believed that elections for single seat districts, in which
two candidates competed for one seat, were far too easily
corrupted by money politics. The Democrats also believed
that elections for multi-seat districts were superior than
the ones for single seat districts because they were cheaper
and easier to manage for both the RTG and the parties
involved. Banharn also believed the Democrats stood to win
more seats with the current multi-seat format, and therefore
were disinclined ever to support the return to single
district seats. Banharn said the coalition had decided to
table the proposal anyway, and would see what happened.
¶6. (C) On the question of whether PM Abhisit and the Democrat
party would ever be willing to consider changes to Article
237 in the Constitution, which was used to ban political
parties such as pro-Thaksin PPP and his own former Chat Thai
party, Banharn suggested that it was unlikely. According to
Banharn, the Democrat party, not to mention CTP and other
coalition members, had concerns any such effort would be
viewed negatively by those close to the monarchy.
GOVERNMENT STABILITY
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¶7. (C) Turning to the subject of government stability, the
Ambassador asked Banharn whether this disagreement on the
Constitution would lead to fissures in the coalition.
Banharn stated unequivocally that it would not, and said that
the small coalition parties were in for the long haul. In
Banharn's mind, the greatest impediment to the longevity of
the government was the Democrat party itself, which Banharn
suggested ran the risk of "tripping over itself." The
coalition partners, which he suggested he could speak for as
their de facto leader, would not end the government
themselves.
¶8. (C) The Ambassador noted that PM Abhisit, by parceling out
cabinet positions on the one hand, but toeing the line on the
constitutional amendment push on the other, had done a
reasonably good job of balancing national and party interests
with those of his coalition partners. Banharn replied that
if Abhisit had not handed out the cabinet positions: "he
would still be in the opposition." Asked if Banharn and the
CTP could therefore just pick up and switch their allegiance
to Puea Thai, provided they could retain their cabinet
portfolios, Banharn told the Ambassador that it would be
"very difficult." without elaborating why.
THAKSIN
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¶9. (C) Banharn told the Ambassador that while he considered
former PM Thaksin a friend, he viewed him as utterly
unpredictable. He speculated that Thaksin -- with whom he
had not spoken in a long time -- was probably even more
unpredictable than ever, now that the RTG had "backed him
into a corner." As with anyone in this situation, this made
Thaksin potentially dangerous, and Banharn said he wished the
RTG would adopt a more flexible and compromising approach vis
a vis Thaksin. By sticking to the letter of the law and
remaining so strident in its dealing with Thaksin, the RTG
had eliminated any possibility for reconciliation. Now both
parties had gone "beyond the point of no return."
¶10. (C) When the Ambassador asked Banharn for his
prescription for dealing with this problem, Banharn conceded
that there was no one with the requisite stature and
reputation for impartiality to successfully negotiate between
both sides. Thaksin and the RTG had both drawn a line in the
sand on the question of Thaksin serving time in jail. In
Banharn's mind, any successful compromise would have to be
predicated on the idea of putting this issue aside to start.
In any case, Banharn emphasized that Thaksin's periodic
comments to the press stating that he was out of politics for
good were laughable. Thaksin was a political animal and
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would always seek to find a way back into the game, a fact
that helped explain why the RTG was so nervous.
THAKSIN'S ASSETS
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¶11. (C) Banharn told the Ambassador that February 26, the day
of the Thaksin assets case verdict, could represent the next
flash point in the red-yellow saga. Banharn and the
Ambassador both noted that Thaksin already had 35-40 percent
of the 76 billion baht in assets currently frozen by the RTG
in the bank when he became PM. Given that fact, Banharn
believed that if the court decision stripped him of
everything, this could provoke a strong reaction from
Thaksin. Banharn suggested that even the King had reached the
same conclusion about the perils of taking all of Thaksin's
frozen assets, pointing to recent public comments to two
separate groups of judges that "even criminals deserve
justice," a line that many had interpreted as a signal to
allow Thaksin to keep a portion of his money.
¶12. (C) On balance, especially given the King's recent
remarks, Banharn believed Thaksin could stand a chance of
recovering a portion, though not all, of his assets on
February 26. Regardless of the outcome, Banharn believed
Thaksin had other resources at his disposal, meaning the
verdict did not represent a make or break proposition for him.
THE KING'S HEALTH
-----------------
¶13. (C) When the Ambassador asked Banharn for his thoughts on
the King's health, Banharn said that the King appeared to be
doing much better, noting that he delivered his two most
recent public speeches off the cuff and without the halting,
subdued speech that marked his birthday address last December
(Ref A). By all accounts, he appeared on the road to
recovery.
¶14. (C) Responding to the Ambassador's question about the
King's continued hospitalization, Banharn suggested that --
despite the King's remarkable improvement -- His Majesty's
medical team had urged him to remain at Siriraj hospital
until he was fully recovered. Returning to the Palace would
introduce major logistical issues for his medical team,
beginning with the fact that the doctors would be separated
from the King by one floor, which would unnecessarily
complicate his full and speedy recovery.
JOHN