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Viewing cable 08SEOUL1113, CANADIAN READOUT ON MAY 7-9 PYONGYANG MEETINGS

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08SEOUL1113 2008-06-02 06:13 2011-08-30 01:44 CONFIDENTIAL Embassy Seoul
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RUEHKO/AMEMBASSY TOKYO PRIORITY 4505
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SEOUL 001113 
 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/19/2017 
TAGS: KN KS PGOV CN
SUBJECT: CANADIAN READOUT ON MAY 7-9 PYONGYANG MEETINGS 
 
Classified By: POL M/C Joseph Yun. Reasons 1.4(b/d) 
 
1. (C) SUMMARY:  DPRK Foreign Minister Pak Ui-chun told a 
Canadian delegation on May 8 that the DPRK was expecting to 
move forward on denuclearization if the USG took appropriate 
actions and that relations with South Korea were "alarmingly 
strained," according to an official at the Canadian Embassy 
in Seoul who accompanied the Canadian Foreign Ministry's 
Director General for East Asia Gordon Houlden on his trip to 
Pyongyang.  END SUMMARY. 
 
2. (C) Director General Houlden, the most senior Canadian 
official to visit Pyongyang, requested a meeting with the 
appropriate vice foreign minister, but was pleased to be 
offered a 40-minute meeting Foreign Minister Pak Ui-chun on 
May 8 instead; Pak was accompanied by Vice Foreign Minister 
of the Sixth Department Kim Hyong-joon but not Vice Foreign 
Minister Kim Gye-gwan, with whom the Canadians had also 
requested a meeting.  A Canadian Embassy Seoul officer 
provided a readout, using his notes from the meeting. 
 
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DENUCLEARIZATION 
---------------- 
 
3. (C) On denuclearization, Pak asked that Houlden tell ROKG 
interlocutors that its nuclear weapons program was not 
directed at the ROK but was instead a deterrent, and that he 
tell USG interlocutors that the USG should "fully implement" 
agreements with the DPRK in order for the denuclearization 
process to move forward.  Pak also said (in answer to a 
question) that allegations of DPRK involvement with Syria 
were "ridiculous"; that the DPRK was ready to submit the 
nuclear declaration to the Chinese Government "today" if the 
USG would take appropriate actions; stressed that full 
denuclearization would require adequate compensation; and 
complained that only one-fourth of promised energy and 
energy-related assistance for Phase II had been provided so 
far. 
 
4. (C) Pak said the April meeting between A/S Hill and VFM 
Kim Gye-gwan in Singapore had resulted in an agreement under 
which the DPRK would submit its declaration, and the USG 
"would lift its two sanctions."  On USG denuclearization 
policy, Pak said that the earlier USG insistence that the 
DPRK move first had been changed, replaced by the current 
action-for-action approach, and that President Bush's support 
for humanitarian aid to the DPRK was a significant step.  As 
part of a question, Houlden asked for Pak's views on the 
Northeast Peace and Security Mechanism but got no reply on 
that issue. 
 
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NORTH-SOUTH RELATIONS 
--------------------- 
 
5. (C) Pak said that relations between the DPRK and ROK were 
"alarmingly strained" because (President) Lee Myung-bak had 
reversed the last 10 years of inter-Korean relations by 
"rejecting" the June 2000 and October 2007 Summit statements; 
he said the ROK should respect these internationally 
recognized declarations.  As a result of the strained 
relations, discussions about sending a joint cheering squad 
to the Beijing Olympics had ceased.  Pak said that Lee's 
approach was comparable to President Bush's overturning of 
the nuclear negotiations that preceded him.  Pak also 
criticized Lee's decision to allow imports of U.S. beef, 
which had raised a "hue and cry" among the people. 
 
6. (C) Returning to the subject of inter-Korean relations 
later, Pak said that the DPRK remained committed to the goal 
of reunification of the two Koreas, but that this had to be 
done in a way that respected different ideologies and did not 
impose one system or another.  "Great strides" in this area 
had been made in the last 10 years, but now the effort faced 
"real challenges."  Pak said his expectation was that the ROK 
would not continue on its current path, but that if it did, 
the DPRK would have to revise its view of North-South 
relations. 
 
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HUMAN RIGHTS 
------------ 
 
7. (C) Pak rejected Houlden's criticism of the DPRK's human 
rights policy, saying that Canada and the U.S. had a double 
standard; for example, U.S. human rights abuses during the 
war in Iraq are not mentioned.  Pak also said that the UN 
Special Rapporteur on DPRK Human Rights (Vitit Muntarbhorn) 
was a "running dog of the U.S." and that he and others sought 
to overthrow the DPRK government by raising human rights. 
That was why the DPRK refused to allow him to visit. 
 
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OTHER MEETINGS 
-------------- 
 
8. (C) Foreign Ministry Director General Ho Yong-bok told 
Houlden that the nuclear issue could be resolved in one to 
two years, depending the USG's willingness to "terminate its 
hostile policy" toward the DPRK.  The DPRK sought conditions 
under which the DPRK and U.S. could "coexist." 
 
9. (C) Chinese Ambassador to the DPRK Liu Xiaoming told 
Houlden that the DPRK leadership was still arriving at a 
decision about complete denuclearization, and that the DPRK 
would increase its cooperation on denuclearization if it were 
removed from the State Sponsors of Terrorism list.  The DPRK 
government had deliberately decided to show restraint and 
remain engaged after the public allegations of its 
involvement with Syria's nuclear program were made, showing 
resolve not to walk away from the negotiating table.  He said 
that North Korea was upset at only receiving a limited amount 
of the energy and non-energy assistance promised under Phase 
II.  The Chinese government was trying to work quietly to 
persuade the DPRK to accept international standards.  The 
Ambassador said that he was the first foreign diplomat to 
hold a press conference in Pyongyang.  DPRK press personnel 
had attended and watched while foreign reporters asked 
questions. 
 
10. (C) World Food Programme Country Director for North Korea 
Jean-Pierre DeMargerie told Houlden that his organization saw 
signs of food insecurity and even food crisis in some areas, 
with particular concern about inequalities in food 
distribution.  People in some areas were eating only two 
meals a day, and the average household was spending 70 
percent of its income on food.  There had been three 
consecutive years of bad harvests, so the food situation was 
likely to get worse.  But DeMargerie cautioned that no 
international organization had direct access to data about 
food and nutrition status across the DPRK. 
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