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07OSLO706 2007-07-02 07:29 2011-08-30 01:44 CONFIDENTIAL Embassy Oslo
VZCZCXYZ0010
PP RUEHWEB

DE RUEHNY #0706/01 1830729
ZNY CCCCC ZZH
P 020729Z JUL 07
FM AMEMBASSY OSLO
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 5930
INFO RUEHLM/AMEMBASSY COLOMBO PRIORITY 0369
RUEHIL/AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD PRIORITY 0447
RUEHBUL/AMEMBASSY KABUL PRIORITY 0169
RUEHKT/AMEMBASSY KATHMANDU PRIORITY 0118
RUEHNE/AMEMBASSY NEW DELHI PRIORITY 0441
RUEHRL/AMEMBASSY BERLIN PRIORITY 0606
C O N F I D E N T I A L OSLO 000706 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SIPDIS 
 
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICHARD BOUCHER, SCA/INS (MGOWER) 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/27/2017 
TAGS: ENRG ETTC PARM PREL IN PGOV PHUM PTER NP CE
AF, DE, KNNP, KSCA, NO 
SUBJECT: BOUCHER DOES BUSINESS IN OSLO ON MARGINS OF 
CO-CHAIRS 
 
REF: 2006 OSLO 553 
 
Classified By: ADCM Kristen Bauer, Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d) 
 
1. (C)  Summary.  On the margins of the June 26 Sri Lanka 
Co-Chairs meetings, Assistant Secretary for South and Central 
Asian Affairs Richard Boucher met with high-level Norwegian 
Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Defense officials, covering a 
broad range of matters including Afghanistan, Pakistan, 
Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka.  Additionally, he privately 
conferred with German Director General for Asian and Pacific 
Affairs Ambassador Andreas Michaelis and Head of Germany's 
South Asia Unit Thomas Wriessnig, discussing Pakistan and 
Afghanistan matters.  Boucher also gave interviews to a major 
Norwegian daily Dagsavisen and television station TV2.  End 
Summary. 
 
Norway's South Asian Assistance 
---------------------------- 
 
2.  (C)  On June 25, Assistant Secretary Boucher met with 
Foreign Ministry Deputy Director General for Regional Affairs 
and Development Katja Nordgaard and Deputy Director General 
for South Asian Affairs Betzy Ellingsen Tunold, covering 
Nepal, Bangladesh, India and Pakistan issues.  Nordgaard 
described the Nepalese move to a transitional constitution as 
"positive." Concerning Bangladesh, she believed encouraging 
signs were emerging, pointing out that the forthcoming local 
elections are crucial.  Tunold outlined Norwegian assistance 
to Nepal and Bangladesh, which targeted education, good 
governance and hydropower infrastructure programs.  The 
Government of Norway's Nepal assistance initiatives also 
focused on local peace-related activities, such as arranging 
seminars dedicated to peace and democracy-building (including 
workshops focusing on building local confidence with 
political systems). Both Nordgaard and Tunold recognized and 
supported U.S. efforts in both countries.  Boucher also 
voiced optimism that both countries were moving in the right 
direction. 
 
3. (C)  Tunold described Norway's increased dealings with 
India, noting some frustration  with Indian bureaucracies.  A 
Foreign-Minister level meeting between both countries, 
originally scheduled for June, has been postponed.  Separate 
Norwegian and Indian governmental working groups were created 
on several issues, ranging from science and technology to 
hydrocarbons, but have yet to meet.  A position paper on 
climate matters, presented by Norwegian Foreign Minister 
Stoere to the India last year, has not yet been addressed by 
the Indian side.  Nordgaard also questioned whether the 
Indian Government could appropriately handle the resulting 
waste stemming from its nuclear program, in relation to the 
impending U.S.-Indian civilian nuclear cooperation 
initiative.  Boucher responded that the U.S. felt confident 
that there were no undue problems concerning waste disposal. 
 
4.  (C)  Boucher presented U.S. plans for development 
assistance to Pakistan, and described the Regional 
Opportunity Zone concept, which we hope to take up with 
Congress shortly.  Nordgaard replied that Pakistan was indeed 
high on the Norwegian agenda, with focus on Pakistan's "long 
way forward." 
 
Solheim's Views on South Asia 
----------------------------- 
 
5.  (C)  Joined by Ambassador Whitney, Assistant Secretary 
Boucher met with International Development Minister Erik 
Solheim, discussing Afghanistan, Nepal and Sri Lanka. 
Concerning Afghanistan, Boucher discussed U.S. development 
assistance, the need for improved and visible high-level 
international civilian coordination, and the forthcoming Rome 
Rule of Law Conference.  With respect to governance issues, 
Solheim noted that Faryab province was "wholly corrupt," but 
recognized that the Norwegian Government must deal with "the 
people that are there."  While Solheim welcomed U.S. civilian 
development assistance, he expressed concern for reliable 
Afghan governance structures which can be self-sustaining. He 
also voiced concern about collateral damage from NATO forces, 
stating that "too many Afghan citizens have been killed" from 
NATO actions. 
 
6.  (C)  Solheim stressed that NATO support in Afghanistan 
 
was not popular in Norway, nor Europe in general.  Stating 
that "we did not have a September 11 here,"  Solheim remarked 
that "the vast majority of Norwegians do not believe we 
should be in far-away places," as Norway has "no tradition" 
of military involvement abroad.  Also, he warned that either 
major losses to Norwegian NATO forces, or Norwegians 
popularly believing that the Afghan mission was "immoral" as 
a result of high "collateral damage" could cause a backlash 
against the Norwegian Afghanistan presence.  He stressed that 
the NATO key to success should be arriving at an end point 
where foreign troops were unnecessary. 
 
7.  (C)  Regarding Nepal, the Minister found it essential 
that an election date should be set, and adhered to.  He also 
called for bringing into the government people from various 
castes and minorities, and ensuring that a responsible, 
inclusive government not solely composed of "Kathmandu 
Brahmins" be established. 
 
8.  (C)  Solheim spoke candidly of Sri Lanka, noting that the 
Government of Sri Lanka had "absolutely no strategy" as to 
solving the Tamil problem.  He advocated clear, unified 
international measures to put an end to human rights abuses, 
while immediately providing access to people in need in 
northeast Sri Lanka.  Additionally, he called for both the 
Government and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) to 
prepare for a cessation of hostilities.  He noted frustration 
that there was yet a clear-cut answer as to whether the 
Government would allow Norwegian peace facilitators into the 
Tiger-controlled areas.  Boucher raised the issue of engaging 
international experts, such as Canadians, within the peace 
dialogue.  Solheim believed that the Tigers would be firmly 
against setting definitive deadlines at all costs. 
 
State Secretary Johansen Discusses Afghanistan, Pakistan 
--------------------------------------------- ---------- 
 
9.  (C)  Following up on his meeting last year with Foreign 
Ministry State Secretary Raymond Johansen (ref A), Boucher 
raised several Afghanistan issues, including the concept of a 
senior UN civilian assistance coordinator, and European 
support for Afghan development assistance.  Johansen raised 
concerns about Iran, questioning why the Government of Iran 
would get involved in supporting the Taliban, when such 
actions invariably created an influx of Afghan refugees into 
Iran.  Boucher explained that while the motives may not be 
clear, the evidence that Iran is exporting weapons to the 
Taliban is. Johansen appreciated U.S. civilian development 
efforts, but commented that Provincial Reconstruction Teams 
were not "easy concepts."  He revealed that Norway had 
difficulty persuading Norwegian NGOs to get involved in 
supporting the Norwegian-controlled Provincial Reconstruction 
Team in Meymaneh, located in Faryab province.  Johansen 
called for a better international approach in Afghanistan to 
reduce the number of civilian casualties. 
 
10.  (C)  Johansen noted that the Norwegian Government was 
closely following events in Pakistan, given that Pakistanis 
are the largest immigrant population in Norway (and are 
actively involved in the Norwegian political scene). He 
warned that a destabilized Pakistan would create problems in 
Afghanistan. 
 
Defense Ministry Meeting 
------------------------ 
 
11. (C)  Assistant Secretary Boucher met with Ministry of 
Defense State Secretary Espen Barth Eide, discussing Norway's 
military role in the Memaneh Provincial Reconstruction Team, 
its Quick Reaction Force in Mazar-e-Sharif and the Norwegian 
Kabul deployment.  Contradicting Minister Solheim's 
observations, Barth Eide stated that there existed "solid 
support for Norway's Afghanistan policies," with "100 percent 
of the Parliamentarians" supporting Norway's position.  Barth 
Eide expressed concern as to whether development assistance 
is resulting in political progress.  Reflecting on Boucher's 
views of international cooperation in Afghanistan, without 
undermining the Afghani government, the State Secretary 
called U.S. policy "very close to our thinking," with Norway 
seeing no need to "overhaul the entire system."  Barth Eide 
agreed that a single contact with the Afghan government, who 
could deal with the international community, would be most 
helpful. 
 
 
 
12.  (C)  Barth Eide found that Norway faced a paradox with 
the warlords in Northern Afghanistan: the Norwegians needed 
their assistance to remove the Taliban, but the warlords did 
not embrace the democratic and anti-corruption measures which 
Norway championed. 
 
13. (C)  Concerning military strategy, Barth Eide cited the 
need to strengthen training, while noting Norway's commitment 
the Operational Mentor and Liaison Team (OMLT) approach. 
(Note: Ministry Staff later explained that getting approval 
of the Liaison Teams was an important step forward by Norway. 
End Note.)  Turning to the Telemark Battalion, Barth Eide 
revealed that there are no plans to commit the full 
battalion, although part of the battalion will come in as the 
Quick Reaction Force.  Although he noted that most of the 
Norwegian Special Forces operate in the Regional Command 
Center, these forces can leave that area "when necessary." 
He reiterated that Norwegian deployment to Kandahar was not 
possible. 
 
Meeting with German Diplomats: Pakistan and Afghanistan 
--------------------------------------------- -------- 
 
14.  (C) Ambassador Boucher met privately with German 
diplomats Ambassador Andreas Michaelis (Asia Director) and 
Thomas Wriessnig.  They reviewed the Afghan and Pakistani 
meetings during the G-8 summit, with Michaelis discussing a 
follow-up Berlin meeting planned for October.  He reiterated 
that 50-60 projects were endorsed by Pakistan and Afghanistan 
within the G-8 context, with Germany supporting 4-5 projects. 
 Boucher explained that U.S. seeks European support for 
Tribal Area development.  They also discussed the need for 
the transformation of Pakistan's Frontier Corps.  Concerning 
the U.S. plan to create Reconstruction Opportunity Zones in 
Pakistan and Afghanistan, Wriessnig noted that the European 
Commission was unlikely to follow the U.S. lead  Wriessnig 
also discussed Germany's plans to construct schools for 
Afghans living in Pakistan.  Boucher floated the concept of a 
high-level UN figure for the coordination of civilian 
assistance in Afghanistan, which interested Michaelis and 
Wriessnig. 
 
15.  (C)  Michealis briefly referred to his recent Tehran 
meetings concerning refugees, where he met with officials 
including the Iranian Special Envoy to Afghanistan and Deputy 
Interior Minister.  He believes that the Iranians were 
serious and genuine about their concerns involving narcotics 
and weapon smuggling in Afghanistan.  Michaelis noted that 
the Iranians denied any Taliban collaboration. 
 
Norwegian Media 
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16. (SBU)  A/S Boucher was interviewed by Dagsavisen and the 
Norwegian media station TV2. The interviews largely focused 
on Sri Lanka, with the Dagsavisen article entitled "Sees No 
Military Solution for Sri Lanka."  Foreign Ministry Sri Lanka 
Adviser Sondre Bjotveit extended the Norwegian Government's 
appreciation for Boucher's "positive remarks" concerning 
Norway's role as facilitator. 
Whitney