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UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 HANOI 001666 
 
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SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE FOR EAP/MLS, DRL/IRF 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PREL KIRF PHUM PGOV HUMANR VM
SUBJECT: PROTESTANT BEATING:  EMBASSY INVESTIGATES REPORT FROM THANH 
HOA 
 
REF: HANOI 1520 
 
HANOI 00001666  001.2 OF 002 
 
 
Summary and Comment 
------------------- 
 
¶1. (SBU) On June 29 Poloff met with provincial, district and 
district police officials in Thanh Hoa Province to look into the 
alleged June 18 beating of un-registered Protestants by police in 
Thieu Vien Commune (reftel).  Although some provincial officials 
attempted to pass off the beatings as the result of a fight between 
local citizens, our conversation with the police made it appear that 
at least security officials are concerned about the case, perhaps 
because of pressure from Hanoi.  The provincial authorities invited 
the Embassy to return in a one or two months' time to hear the final 
police report on the incident.  End Summary and Comment. 
 
Provincial Officials Offer Explanation 
-------------------------------------- 
 
¶2. (SBU) On June 29 Poloff traveled to Thanh Hoa Province to look 
into the local government's reaction to the report of beatings of 
Full Gospel Protestants in the province's Thieu Hoa District 
(reftel).  Poloff met with Le Viet Bon, Deputy Chief of Staff for 
the provincial People's Committee (PPC), together with Bui Hai Vinh, 
Director of the province's Department of Religion and Ethnic 
Minority Affairs.  On the subject of the June 18 incident, the 
officials noted that Nguyen Trung Ton, who presented evidence to 
Poloff that he had been beaten by police, claims to be an 
"unaffiliated" Protestant pastor and has been trying to convert or 
at least attract followers, although "he has never even attended a 
class on religion, much less received a degree."  The Full Gospel 
Protestants under his tutelage "sometimes supposedly have prayer 
groups during lunchtime," but really "they are trying to make 
money," the officials flippantly suggested. 
 
¶3. (SBU) Reminded by Poloff of the seriousness of the matter and the 
international attention it has received, one of the officials said, 
"it's a pity the incident took place."  "We took a very clear 
approach:  as soon as we learned of the incident, we asked the 
district officials to conduct an official investigation and to 
determine the appropriate punishment for the individuals involved," 
they continued.  The provincial authorities resolved not to try to 
cover up anyone's guilt, and those found responsible will be 
punished according to the law, the director said. 
 
¶4. (SBU) Referring to photographic evidence of the beatings posted 
on the internet and given to Poloff by Ton, Bon asserted that "these 
are pictures only and, given the available technology, things can be 
misleading, so we need to conduct an official investigation."  Local 
authorities have confirmed that they asked four citizens to go to 
the police headquarters in Thieu Vien Commune, as reported to Poloff 
by Ton.  While they were there, some individuals lost control, and 
physical fighting occurred, but "this is not unusual."  This 
incident was just a fight between individual citizens and should not 
be seen as institutional repression on religious activities, the 
officials asserted. 
 
Thieu Hoa District 
------------------ 
 
¶5. (SBU) Separately, Thieu Hoa District's Director of Religious 
Affairs noted that there are only two legal religions in the 
district:  Catholicism and Buddhism.  There are 1,500 Catholics in 
two sub-parishes, and 450 Buddhist with five temples.  Although 
there are no official Protestant organizations in the district, the 
official acknowledged that "just recently, five individuals in Thieu 
Vien Commune claimed to be Protestant believers."  The district's 
Protestants met several times without authorization, and district 
officials instructed them to cease.  This group has never submitted 
a registration application, the official said.  (Note:  According to 
information from Ton, the group unsuccessfully attempted to register 
after being confronted by local officials.  End Note.)  The Director 
also said that the June 18 incident resulted from a fight between 
common citizens.  "It is important that you do not turn this 
incident into a big thing ... the incident is not a sign of official 
repression of religion...fighting is something normal, which happens 
everyday in villages," he concluded. 
 
¶6. (SBU) After this meeting, Poloff met with Lieutenant Colonel Le 
Nguc Duc, Chief of Police in Thieu Hoa District.  Poloff passed 
reftel details and photographs to Duc and asked that he use them in 
his investigation of the June 18 incident.  With some gravity, Duc 
said he "would use the information as further guidance for the 
police investigation and report."  This investigation is still 
pending, nobody has been punished yet and no final conclusions or 
reports have been issued, he said.  Nevertheless the initial 
investigation has confirmed that a fight broke out at the police 
station between Ton and his colleagues and "common citizens." 
 
HANOI 00001666  002.2 OF 002 
 
 
Nonetheless, the police chief acknowledged that "there have been 
conflicting stories and documents relating what actually 
happened...that's why we have not issued our final conclusions yet." 
 
 
Future Plans 
------------ 
 
¶7. (SBU) The Embassy team was unable to visit Thieu Vien Commune or 
the house church as originally planned.  However, provincial 
officials agreed that Poloff should return to visit both locations 
and to hear the police chief's final report in late July or August. 
 
 
Comment 
------- 
 
¶8. (SBU) Although we are pleased that Thanh Hoa accepted our visit 
on only two days' notice, we are concerned that provincial level 
officials at first did not understand the seriousness of this issue. 
 Hopefully that has changed.  We note, however, the seriousness with 
which the district police chief treated the subject, possibly thanks 
to pressure from Hanoi to show results.  On the positive side, the 
visit allowed an unusually frank exchange with local officials about 
a subject that is normally impossible for us to discuss. 
 
Background:  Thanh Hoa's Religious Demographics 
--------------------------------------------- -- 
 
¶9. (SBU) According to information provided by local officials, three 
religious organizations function legally in Than Hoa:  the Catholic 
Church, the Evangelical Church of Vietnam North (ECVN) and the 
Vietnamese Buddhist Sangha (VBS).  The Thanh Hoa Catholic Diocese 
currently boasts 46 parishes, 305 sub-parishes, 56 priests, 1 
bishop, 113 nuns, 36 seminarians, 35,000 Catholics followers and a 
monastery.  There are over a hundred VBS temples in the province and 
20,000 formally registered Buddhists, although many more Thanh Hoa 
residents are practicing Buddhists.  The VBS has established eight 
executive boards to govern Buddhist followers at the district level 
in the province.  Five of these were established in the last year. 
Finally, there is one legal ECVN congregation, which was permitted 
to resume regular worship in late 2005 (see para 11). 
 
¶10. (SBU) The officials noted that believers of all faiths have been 
permitted to study and learn about their religion in training 
classes conducted at their places of worship.  Officials have also 
tried to facilitate religious festivals and ceremonies as required, 
and "all requests for activities have been processed promptly in a 
smooth and legal manner."  The province has allowed new clergy to 
begin work in Thanh Hoa.  In 2005-2006, ten Catholic priests were 
ordained in the province, and a further ten were ordained in Hanoi 
for service in Thanh Hoa.  Fifteen VBS monks graduated from their 
training and many of them have been admitted for further study to 
Buddhist schools in Hanoi.  The province is now examining a proposal 
to add 16 parishes to the diocese and has agreed to the construction 
of 15 new VBS temples.  Since 1990, Thanh Hoa has also granted 
20,000 square meters of land for use by the Catholic Church, the 
officials said. 
 
¶11. (SBU) The officials noted that Protestants first appeared in the 
province as early as 1925.  A single pastor took care of the Thanh 
Hoa ECVN congregation until 1986. (Note:  This makes Thanh Hoa one 
of the 15 long-recognized ECVN congregations allowed by the GVN 
after 1964.  End Note).  After the pastor's death, Protestant 
numbers dwindled because "nobody took care of the church."  In late 
2005, the local authorities granted permission for the church to 
resume operations.  In the six months since, "everything has been 
proceeding smoothly" as far as provincial authorities are concerned. 
 The ECVN's new pastor has already successfully established an 
administration, executive board and has applied for land to 
construct a new church, the officials said. 
 
¶12. (SBU) The provincial Department on Religion and Ethnicities has 
asked individual districts, communes and villages to provide better 
statistics about Protestant followers so that Thanh Hoa will 
eventually be able to conduct a pilot project to register all 
Protestants.  That said, according to the officials, "what is 
disappointing for us is that some individuals, claiming to be 
pastors, have conducted activities for Protestants without our 
knowledge or approval." 
 
MARINE