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SUBJECT: VIETNAM PLANS TO REGISTER A FEW PROTESTANTS, RELIGIOUS 
LEADERS OPTIMISTIC BUT CONCERNED 
 
REF: A) HANOI 1112; B) HCMC 588; C) HANOI 1113 
 
HANOI 00001466  001.2 OF 004 
 
 
¶1. (SBU) SUMMARY. Although the GVN Religious Affairs authorities are 
non-committal about future Embassy visits to monitor religious 
freedom developments in the North, they have begun a pilot project 
for registering eight ethnic minority Protestant congregations in 
three provinces.  In addition, they are educating local officials in 
fourteen provinces about the new framework on religion and the 
provinces are drafting plans to implement the regulations, 
especially in the area of house church registration.  An EU team 
confirmed some of this information after a recent visit to 
Protestant villages in the Northwest, but reported that local 
officials continue to misunderstand some of their responsibilities. 
Hanoi Protestants also confirmed the GVN plans, but raised concerns 
that they are not able to train or assist local leaders in the 
registration process.  They are nevertheless optimistic that the GVN 
will eventually register Protestant congregations across the North 
now that Vietnam is joining the WTO.  A visit from Ambassador at 
Large for International Religious Freedom John Hanford would help 
reinforce our efforts to encourage the GVN to allow other churches 
to train their own clergy and to assist congregations to rapidly 
organize, register and serve the needs of believers. End Summary. 
 
Visits and religious-freedom reports may be postponed... 
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¶2. (SBU) On June 12, Poloff and Pol Assistants met with Dang Tai 
Tinh, Director of External Relations for the GVN's Committee on 
Religious Affairs (CRA).  Poloff thanked Tinh for the CRA's recent 
successful efforts to convince the northern border provinces of Lao 
Cai and Ha Giang to receive a fact-finding trip from the Embassy 
team focusing on religious freedom and reiterated a request for 
similar assistance to visit Dien Bien Province as well as several 
other problem provinces in the highlands.  Poloff also asked whether 
CRA will provide post with a previously promised 
province-by-province breakdown of GVN efforts to implement the new 
framework on religion. 
 
¶4. (SBU) Tinh was non-committal about Dien Bien's recent refusal to 
accept an Embassy visit this June, noting that "many provinces face 
logistical problems organizing these visits."  However, Dien Bien 
will likely suggest a more realistic schedule for the end of June or 
early July.  (Note: We requested a visit to an Evangelical Church of 
Vietnam (ECVN) house church in Muong Nghe, the district infamous for 
beatings of Protestants, in our original suggested program.  It is 
likely that fear of allowing such a visit was the real source of the 
Provincial People's Committee (PPC) "concern over logistics." End 
Note.)  Tinh also stated that it will be some time before the CRA 
provides a province-by-province breakdown as requested.  The GVN is 
only now in the process of implementing the ordinance at the local 
level and results will take time to collect and vet with higher 
authorities before final collation. 
 
...in the meantime: some training for cadres... 
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¶5. (SBU) Tinh reiterated standard points that the GVN has been 
working to improve local infrastructure and welfare in remote areas 
of the country, and noted that "while the central government cares 
for the economic and spiritual needs of the people, it also has to 
ensure the overall social stability of the country."  To this end, 
the GVN has conducted training sessions to educate provincial and 
district officials from across the North about the new religious 
regulations so that they will "implement these policies in an 
orderly fashion."  Over 300 local officials have attended these 
training classes in Hanoi and Hue.  The CRA plans to hold a similar 
course in Ho Chi Minh City (HCMC) soon.  In addition, the CRA 
trained over 600 provincial propaganda cadres to disseminate 
information on religion to the common people, he said. 
 
...and for the clergy... 
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¶6. (SBU) Tinh further stated that the CRA has held training seminars 
for religious leaders.  In April, 247 clergy participants from 
various religious groups attended a seminar in Hanoi.  In May, 266 
leaders attended a session in Hue and another 300 attended one in 
HCMC (REF B).  The CRA is planning to organize more conferences and 
seminars for local officials and religious leaders in the coming 
months.  Poloff asked whether public security officers have also 
participated in programs for local officials and religious leaders. 
Tinh replied that police and security officials from the provinces 
will receive special training from the Ministry of Public Security 
(MPS).  (Note: We have requested a meeting with the International 
Cooperation Department at MPS for a briefing on the MPS training; 
however we have yet to receive an appointment. End Note.) 
 
...and a pilot project for Protestant registration. 
 
HANOI 00001466  002.2 OF 004 
 
 
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¶7. (SBU) Tinh asked Tran Minh Hung, the Deputy Director for 
Protestant Affairs to elaborate on the CRA's efforts to implement 
the registration of Protestant house-churches in the North.  Hung 
stated that there are more than 100,000 Protestants live in the 
fourteen provinces in the region.  Over ninety percent are ethnic 
H'mong, and almost all of the remainder are ethnic Dzao.  On March 
30-31, the CRA organized a conference with officials from all 
fourteen PPCs to explain the registration process.  Each PPC is now 
charged with formulating an implementation plan.  Between May and 
June, each province will also conduct seminars at the district and 
commune level to discuss these plans.  Tinh clarified that the 
Embassy team will not be able to participate or observe any of these 
conferences. 
 
¶8. (SBU) Hung stated that in addition to these general training 
sessions, the CRA has identified Lai Chau, Lao Cai and Ha Giang as 
pilot provinces for house-church registration.  Lai Chau and Ha 
Giang have both agreed to register two ECVN congregations and Lao 
Cai has committed to registering another four.  Under the program, 
all eight will be officially registered by the end of July.  After 
the completion of these pilot registrations, the CRA will "analyze 
results and may generalize the implementation if successful."  In 
addition to the CRA's program, Thai Nguyen and Bac Can provinces are 
implementing their own pilot registrations, with four congregations 
likely to be registered in Thai Nguyen and several more in Bac Can, 
Hung said.  Poloff noted that there are over 1,000 ECVN house church 
congregations in the fourteen Northern provinces, and asked when we 
can expect more than just these preliminary eight to twelve 
registrations.  Tinh replied that the CRA does not have enough 
resources to focus on more than three provinces at a time. 
 
The EU confirms some of this in Lao Cai... 
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¶9. (SBU) On June 13, Poloff was briefed by French and EC poloffs on 
the EU-troika's recent trip to Lao Cai, Lai Chau, and Dien Bien. 
(Note: The EU modeled their visit on Poloff's recent visit to Lao 
Cai and Ha Giang - REFS A and C - and it was closely coordinated 
with ECVN. End Note.)  EC poloff stated that the Lao Cai PPC assured 
the EU team that the province is "making efforts to implement the 
new framework on religion", which include training for officials at 
the provincial, district and commune levels.  In Bac Ha district, 
the District People's Committee (DPC) asserted that registration of 
Protestant groups under their jurisdiction remains difficult because 
it leads to conflict between traditional H'mong adherents and the 
new congregants.  This is especially problematic because ancestor 
worship traditionally depends on land tenures in the region.  "If 
tensions arise in the community we have to act," they said. 
 
¶10. (SBU) In Ta Cu Ty commune in Bac Ha the EU team met with local 
officials who stated that the Protestant congregations in this 
majority H'Mong Christian area have not been allowed to register 
officially because they do not meet two requirements: 1) the groups 
did not form themselves properly, and 2) their leaders are 
illiterate and untrained.  They also contradicted recent allegations 
from the ECVN that several villagers from the commune were recently 
detained.  After an hour's hike to the village of Xin Chai, the EU 
asked the village headman to introduce them to the allegedly 
detained villagers.  "After a long pause punctuated by an MPS 
officer speaking rapidly in H'mong," the man claimed that the 
individuals were in the village but "their houses were twenty 
kilometers distant."  The EU assesses that the province was not 
prepared for their request to meet with Protestants in this village 
and they were not allowed to do so based on this and other thin 
excuses. 
 
... and in Lai Chau, but not in Dien Bien. 
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¶11. (SBU) In Lai Chau, the PPC acknowledged to the EU delegation 
(and for the first time to anyone) that the province is home to 
10,000 Protestants.  They also acknowledged a small Catholic 
community, but claimed that there is no tradition of Catholicism in 
the province prior to 1954.  To date, 69 Protestant house church 
congregations have applied for registration.  The PPC is ready to 
register congregations but will only approve applications from 
groups that "contribute to social well-being," have a leader and 
have received formal approval from the central government.  The 
Director of the Provincial Committee on Religion and Ethnic 
Minorities also told the EU that the provincial plan for 
registration requires each congregation to 1) consolidate their 
organization; 2) find a leader well versed in the doctrine of 
Protestant Christianity; and, 3) consolidate their application 
documentation.  If a house church has achieved all three steps, it 
will then be permitted to contact ECVN in Hanoi to complete the 
process of establishing membership in the church.  The French poloff 
 
HANOI 00001466  003.2 OF 004 
 
 
asked how any congregation in this remote, poorly educated region 
could possibly satisfy any of these requirements, particularly 
finding a well-trained pastor, without ECVN assistance.  The 
Director replied: "The provincial CRA will train the pastor about 
the religion and the process." 
 
¶12. (SBU) The EU officers were permitted to visit two Protestant 
H'Mong villages in Lai Chau.  The first, Cung Mu Phin village in Lam 
Nhi Tang Commune of Tam Duong District, was near the highway and 
only forty minutes from Lai Chau City.  The village is a double 
hamlet with one half H'mong and the other Hoa (ethnic Chinese). 
Provincial officials allowed the EU to have a private meeting with 
the village headman who explained that the majority of H'mong 
residents are Protestants, including himself.  They gather once a 
week in a house but their deacon does not live in the village. 
Officials later told the EU that if they returned on Sunday, they 
could meet the deacon and observe the congregation's services.  The 
headman showed the EU two bibles - one published in Kinh (ethnic 
Vietnamese) in the United States and the other of indeterminate 
origin published in H'mong language.  The delegation was allowed to 
visit the home where the congregation gathers for worship and 
reported seeing a crude lectern, cross and benches.  A picture 
clipped from a newspaper depicting DPM Vu Khoan meeting with ECVN 
leaders in Hanoi appeared to have been hanging the wall for some 
time.  The headman noted that the congregation had had problems with 
police harassment until 2003, but have not had any problems since 
then.  An elderly Hoa man working in the fields who said he was not 
Christian told the delegation that economic conditions in the area 
have gotten worse over the years as the GVN has taken more and more 
land away from individuals. 
 
¶13. (SBU) On the following day, the EU delegation visited the H'mong 
village of Pao Phang (#1) in Phin Ho Commune of Sin Ho district. 
The village was at the top of a mountain which was only accessible 
after a four-hour hike up a steep track.  The members of the EU 
delegation who managed to make it to the village were greeted by the 
headman, commune chairman and a police official.  The local leaders 
reiterated standard rural points to the delegation on economic and 
social development, for example "women are now equal and most don't 
marry before the age of eighteen or twenty." This was said as the 
thirteen year old wife of the police officer killed and cooked a 
chicken for the delegation while tending her two toddlers.  At the 
EU's request, a Protestant who proved to be the brother of the 
headman was invited into the meeting to be interviewed.  He proved 
ill-informed about Christian doctrine and could not even explain the 
significance of Christmas.  He did, however, note that Protestantism 
is "less expensive" than traditional H'mong religious customs which 
is why he converted.  (Note: Embassy Poloffs have heard this in 
other rural villages.  The reasoning is that traditional H'mong 
religious practices require regular sacrifices of buffalo and other 
livestock, which can be a severe burden on impoverished families. 
End Note.)  The man also explained that he travels on Sundays to 
another village for services conducted by a deacon who has traveled 
to visit ECVN in Hanoi.  After the long trip to Pao Phang, the EU 
delegation did not have enough time to make their planned visit with 
the PPC in Dien Bien Phu in Dien Bien province on the last day of 
their trip. 
 
ECVN adds some details on CRA plans... 
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¶14. (SBU) On June 14, Poloff and Pol Assistants met with ECVN 
General Secretay Pastor Au Quang Vinh.  He reported that ECVN 
representatives last met with CRA on June 10.  CRA told Vinh and the 
others about the eight congregation pilot program and asked ECVN to 
assist the GVN in the execution of its implementation plan by doing 
three things.  First, the ECVN should suspend issuance of official 
applications to provincial governments on behalf of local 
congregations because the PPCs are "receiving too many 
applications."  Vinh showed Embassy team a bundle of fifteen 
unopened application letters returned by the Ha Giang PPC that the 
CRA passed back to the ECVN at the meeting.  (Note: Ha Giang claims 
that the letters were improperly addressed as there is no provincial 
"Committee on Religion and Ethnicity" and so returned them.  End 
Note.)  Second, CRA asked that pending the training of local 
officials and cadres in Protestant provinces ECVN should tell all 
house church congregations not to gather at places of worship. 
Believers should only worship at home for the time being.  The 
registration process will be halted until after the training courses 
are completed.  Finally, CRA requested ECVN's assistance in 
ascertaining whether applicant congregations are actually affiliated 
with ECVN or are more closely associated with other Christian groups 
that have proselytized in the area in the past.  Vinh noted that 
since the Christian Missionary Alliance's efforts to change the 
allegiance of a number of house churches in the region several years 
ago, ECVN has been very careful to provide official credentials only 
to deacons of congregations with which they have a firm 
relationship. 
 
HANOI 00001466  004.4 OF 004 
 
 
 
...confirms EU reporting... 
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¶15. (SBU) Poloff asked if the CRA told the ECVN that local officials 
will train house church pastors "about the religion and the process" 
as reported by the EU.  Vinh said that ECVN has heard similar 
assertions from CRA and other officials.  The Church recently raised 
strong objections to an article published in "Fatherland Magazine," 
a publication closely associated with the Vietnam Fatherland Front 
(the umbrella organization usually responsible for organizing such 
training) written by Dang Nghiem Van, a highly respected expert on 
provincial ethnic affairs, which perpetuated a number of myths about 
H'mong Protestantism.  ECVN's most serious concern was that the 
article reiterated the common belief amongst local officials that 
the words "Vang Chu" are related to a Lao-based militant sect.  ECVN 
states that Vang Chu is just the H'mong word for God and is used 
synonymously with Jesus Christ in Protestant H'mong services. 
Protestants, thus, have no relationship with Vang Chu insurgent 
groups.  If this is the kind of thing the CRA and the provincial 
cadres will teach, it will hopelessly confuse local officials and 
Protestants, Vinh said. 
 
...and provides an update on ECVN activities and outlook. 
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¶16. (SBU) Vinh stated that ECVN has added forty-three ethnic 
minority congregations since the beginning of 2006 for a new total 
of 1,070 house churches in the North.  Two thirds of these have 
applied to register but none have received permission to do so yet. 
Of the remaining third, some are waiting to gauge local authorities' 
response to other applications before submitting their own.  More 
congregations (around 140) believe that they have no need to 
register as they are able to worship as the please without 
harassment now.  The small remainder has not applied because of 
"technical and logistical problems," he said. 
 
¶17. (SBU) In sum, Vinh stated that conditions for Protestants are 
not getting worse in the North, but are not getting better.  ECVN is 
not aware of any new police harassment or arrests of believers. 
Vinh theorized that local officials are "waiting for something to 
happen" before they move forward (or backward) on registration.  He 
also said that it is not yet clear if the CRA's program in the North 
will be as strong and as successful as their earlier efforts in the 
central highlands.  Nevertheless, ECVN is optimistic that sooner of 
later the GVN will have to recognize congregations across the North, 
especially "now that Vietnam has entered the WTO," Vinh said. 
 
Comment 
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¶18. (SBU) It is clear that the GVN has developed some kind of 
implementation plan to begin registration of Protestant 
congregations in the North, but the eight to twelve house churches 
that they expect to register by the end of the July is 
disappointingly few.  It is also worrying that the CRA has asked 
ECVN to delay submission of applications for bureaucratic reasons as 
well as to keep from assisting congregations in the process 
generally, but this may be a good-faith effort to allow the CRA to 
facilitate progress while preventing individual provinces from 
obstructing the process.  Most disconcerting is the EU and ECVN 
report that CRA and provincial officials expect that they will have 
primary responsibility for training local religious leaders about 
their own beliefs.  We are hopeful that the ECVN, and the Embassy, 
will succeed in convincing the CRA that religious organizations need 
to be able to train their own clergy and to assist their own 
congregations to rapidly organize, register and serve the needs of 
believers.  A visit from Ambassador Hanford would help reinforce 
this message, and let the GVN know that a minimalist solution alone 
is not sufficient.  The GVN will have to convince the international 
community that its first steps in the Northwest highlands are just 
the beginning of a campaign to provide real religious freedom. 
 
BOARDMAN