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S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 JAKARTA 002527 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE FOR EAP/MTS, EAP/RSP, S/CT, EB/ESC/TFS 
TREASURY FOR JPHILLIP 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/24/2016 
TAGS: EFIN ETTC PREL AS ID
SUBJECT: TERRORIST FINANCE: ENGAGING TEH GOI ON TF ADN 
PLANNED UN DESIGNATION OF A.B. BA'ASYIR 
 
REF: A. A) STATE 22847 
     ¶B. B) JAKARTA 252 
     ¶C. C) STATE 315 
 
Classified By: ECONOMIC OFFICER TOBIAS GLUCKSMAN. REASON: 1.4 (b) AND ( 
d). 
 
¶1.  (S) Summary:  Government of Indonesia (GOI) officials 
raised concerns about the effect of additional UN 1267 
designations of Indonesia's on the country's international 
reputation.  Generally speaking, though, they did not voice 
specific initial opposition to a U.S. and Australian plan to 
move forward in late March with the designation of Abu Bakar 
Ba'asyir (ABB) and three other Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) members. 
 GOI officials supported proposals for a UN 1267 practitioner 
workshop and the possibility of cash courier training.  End 
Summary. 
 
¶2.  (S) Ambassador Pascoe on February 22 delivered ref A 
talking points to Department of Foreign Affairs (Deplu) 
Director General for Europe American and European Affairsand 
the Americas Eddy S. Hariyadhi.  Also, at a February 13 
meeting with Presidential Aide Dino Djalal, the Ambassador 
raised the USG's decision to propose the UN 1267 designation 
ofAbu Bakar Ba'asyir (ABB) and three other JI members. 
Separately, Embassy Officers on February 21 delivered ref A 
working level talking points and provided JI-4 identifier 
information and statements of case, as well as separate asset 
lead information, to Deplu Directorate of International 
Security and Disarmament Aris Munandar, and to Coordinating 
Ministry for Political, Law and Security Affairs Counter 
Terrorism Coordinating Desk Head Ansyaad Mbai. 
 
¶3.  (S) Hariyadhi told the Ambassador that Indonesia respects 
the USG's right to propose names for UN 1267 designation. 
However, he expressed concern that the addition of new 
Indonesian names to the UN 1267 list would have a negative 
impact on Indonesia's international reputation, despite the 
country's successes in combating terrorism.  The Ambassador 
responded that the international community recognized and 
appreciated Indonesia's CT efforts, particularly the over 200 
arrests and 100 convictions of terrorists.  The Ambassador 
added that it was best to designate ABB prior to his 
scheduled release from prison in June, when media attention 
would be heightened.  The Australian Ambassador told us later 
in the day that he had received a similar reaction to his 
parallel demarche: the Indonesians will not co-designate 
their citizens, but recognize the right of others to do so. 
 
¶4. (S) Munandar expressed views similar to Hariyadhi's.  He 
added that, while Indonesia has never proposed or 
co-designated a name for UN 1267 designation, it does not 
stand in the way of efforts by other countries to do so. 
Munandar thanked us for the asset lead information and said 
he would see that it reached appropriate police CT 
investigators.  He expressed initial support for our proposal 
for a joint UN 1267 practitioner workshop -- possibly with 
support from the Australians and others, to improve 
Indonesia's implementation of its UN 1267 obligations -- but 
he said he would have to discuss the idea further with other 
agencies.  He noted that his name matched exactly that of 
another Indonesian currently designated on the UN 1267 list. 
As a result, he personally has had difficulty wiring money to 
his family from overseas and in obtaining a British visa.  He 
added that Czech Republic authorities also mistakenly jailed 
for three months an Indonesian student who also shares the 
same name.  To avoid such cases of mistaken identity, 
Munandar said UN designations should include, whenever 
possible, photos, physical descriptions and biodata, such as 
fingerprints. 
 
¶5.  (S) Mbai said he supported the proposed JI-4 
designations, including those of ABB and Anshori.  He told us 
that while Anshori had denounced terrorist attacks, he had 
recently refused police requests to meet, even though there 
is no open case against him.  During our visit, Mbai 
contacted Indonesian National Police General Bekto Suprapto, 
current head of the national CT unit Detachment 88, who 
confirmed Mbai's support for the four designations.  On a 
related matter, Mbai urged us to remove Nasir Abas from the 
UN 1267 list, as he has renounced terrorism, collaborated 
closely with police investigators for approximately three 
years, and recently published a book exposing the inner 
workings of JI.  Mbai said he would support a UN 1267 
practitioner workshop, as well as any possible cash courier 
training.  He too thanked us for the asset leads and said he 
 
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would convey them immediately to the police. 
 
¶6.  (S) Comment: We are pleased by the GOI's initial reaction 
to the news that we intend to proceed with proposing the 
designation of ABB and three other JI members.   We will 
follow up with Deplu on the proposed workshop, which should 
be a good first step in nurturing greater GOI support for and 
participation in the UN 1267 process. 
PASCOE