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05ROME4155 2005-12-27 15:46 2011-08-30 01:44 CONFIDENTIAL Embassy Rome
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ROME 004155 
 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/23/2015 
TAGS: ECON ENRG PGOV PREL KDEM SA IR IS IT IQ RU
SUBJECT: WITH A WARY EYE ON RUSSIA AND THE MIDDLE EAST, 
ITALY CONSIDERS ENERGY SELF-SUFFICIENCY 
 
Classified By: Ambassador Ronald Spogli for Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d) 
 
1.  (SBU)  Summary.  Italy's Productive Activities Minister 
says Italy and the EU are too dependent on Russian energy, 
and that truly developed countries should be self-sufficient 
in energy.  Italy is actively pursuing alternative energy 
sources, such as biomass fuel, hydrogen energy, and solar 
power.  Minister Claudio Scajola criticized recent statements 
by Iranian President Ahmadinejad and noted U.S. policies have 
led to positive changes in the Middle East.  The Minister, a 
close political ally of Prime Minister Berlusconi, hopes for 
continued cooperation with the United States on a broad range 
of issues, including the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.  End 
summary. 
 
Urban Energy Farm 
----------------- 
 
2.  (SBU)  Scajola told the Ambassador December 21 that he is 
"totally preoccupied with the cost of energy."  He said he is 
actively pursuing alternative energy sources, such as biomass 
fuel, hydrogen energy, and solar power.  Later this month, he 
will inaugurate a solar energy farm on the roof of his 
ministry in Rome, to promote solar power.  Scajola emphasized 
that Italy must join G-8 countries that have taken a second 
look at nuclear power, which he described as climate-friendly 
energy. 
 
3.  (C)  On energy security, Scajola said Italy is too 
dependent on Russian oil, "but better to depend on the 
Russians than the Middle East."  Scajola sees this dependency 
as an EU problem, with "Europe as a whole overly-dependent on 
Russian energy."  Scajola said "truly developed countries 
must be independent in energy." 
 
Optimistic on the Middle East, not Saudi Arabia, Iran 
--------------------------------------------- --------- 
 
4.  (C)  The Ambassador thanked Scajola for Italy's support 
in the Global War Against Terrorism, and pointed specifically 
to Italian troop deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan. 
Scajola responded that U.S. Middle East policy has positively 
changed the region.  "Iraq is much better than before."  He 
expressed hope that the outcome of Iraq's December 15 
elections will be a unified government, not divided along 
ethnic lines.  "We don't want Iraq to dissolve." 
 
5.  (C)  Scajola, who recently returned from Saudi Arabia, 
commented that the Kingdom must still open its society.  He 
noted that Saudi Arabian society is not as open as others in 
the region, such as Lebanon, and expressed concern that lack 
of openness could lead to political instability and 
insecurity in the energy supply. 
 
Concerned about Israeli Military Action 
--------------------------------------- 
 
6.  (C)  Scajola pointed to Iran's WMD pursuit and Iranian 
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's denial of the holocaust and 
anti-Israel statements as further reasons for concern. 
Scajola expressed hope that Ahmadinejad's electoral victory 
was a result of low turnout among moderate Iranians and that, 
by extension, his statements do not reflect the views of the 
silent majority.  Scajola said that Italian businessmen had 
urged the GOI to continue to allow Italian firms to engage 
customers in Iran. 
 
7.  (C)  Noting that "the solution to challenges posed by 
Iran is not military," Scajola claimed that a major problem 
in the region is that Israel may choose to take matters into 
its own hands, to the detriment of the entire region. 
Scajola did express admiration for Israeli Prime Minister 
Sharon, and condemned Palestinian suicide bombers as symbolic 
of economic despair.  He views economic growth and 
Palestinian development as a palliative to relations between 
Israeli and Palestinians. 
 
EU Budget Deal a Win For Italy; EU Generational Divide 
--------------------------------------------- --------- 
 
8.  (C)  Scajola said the recent EU budget agreement was a 
win for Italy and important for the EU's future.  He 
commented that many citizens, especially the young, view the 
EU as part of "the myth of Europe."  His generation, which 
remembers the effects of World War II, the Prague uprising, 
and President Kennedy's solidarity with Europe, still retains 
"the idealism of Europe."  The younger generation does not 
appreciate the advantages of the EU, in part, because young 
people are not familiar with the dangers of a divided Europe. 
 "In the past, many wars started within Europe."  That said, 
Scajola admitted that EU bureaucracy "is a brake" on economic 
dynamism. 
U.S. - Italy Relations 
---------------------- 
 
9.  (SBU)  Throughout the meeting, Scajola took lengths to 
express Italian solidarity with the United States on energy 
policy, the Middle East, foreign policy generally, and 
defense policy.  In his view, the U.S. - Italy relationship 
is one of historic collaboration.  Scajola expressed hope for 
continued collaboration on energy policy and in aerospace, 
especially through the Joint Strike Fighter program to which 
Italy has committed over one billion dollars. 
 
Italian Elections 
----------------- 
 
10.  (U)  Scajola closed with an analysis of the April 2006 
national elections.  Admitting that "we'll know more in a 
month," Scajola unsurprisingly predicted a victory for his 
center-right coalition.  Scajola said the key issue in the 
election is the economy, which depends upon highways, 
railways, and energy to grow.  These issues help the right 
because they create "divisions in the house" of the 
center-left, especially between the pragmatic centrists, who 
understand the need for a reliable infrastructure and a 
secure energy supply, and members of the "no-global" movement 
and environmentalists. 
 
Comment 
------- 
 
11.  (U)  Scajola was well-informed, candid, and eager to 
engage the United States on a variety of political and 
economic issues.  Regardless of the outcome of April's 
elections, Scajola's keen mind and engaging personality 
ensure that we will continue to seek opportunities to hear 
his views on issues of mutual concern or interest.  Scajola 
will travel to the United States before July, which will give 
us the opportunity to have him meet Washington policy-makers 
to reinforce his positive disposition toward us. 
 
Biographical Note 
----------------- 
 
12.  (U)  A biography of Minister Scajola can be found on 
Embassy Rome's SIPRNET site, 
http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/eur/rome.  Scajola is an avid 
outdoorsman who enjoys hiking in the Dolomites, near his 
home.  He is married with two children.  He and his family 
recently returned from a vacation in the Libyan desert, which 
he described as "the most beautiful in the world," and "a 
great place to go if you don't want to see other people." 
SPOGLI