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Viewing cable 02ROME4122, ITALY STATIONING AND SOVEREIGNTY WORKING GROUP

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02ROME4122 2002-08-22 17:11 2011-08-30 01:44 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Rome 
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
 
UNCLAS ROME 004122 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: MARR FORCES IN ITALY
SUBJECT: ITALY STATIONING AND SOVEREIGNTY WORKING GROUP 
MEETING MINUTES 
 
1. (U) THE SEVENTH MEETING OF THE ITALY STATIONING AND 
SOVEREIGNTY WORKING GROUP (ISSWOG) WAS HELD IN ROME ON MAY 7. 
 SENIOR US MILITARY OFFICIALS MET WITH EMBASSY ROME 
REPRESENTATIVES TO DISCUSS ISSUES EFFECTING US PERSONNEL 
STATIONED AT MILITARY FACILITIES IN ITALY.  PARTICIPANTS AND 
AGENDA ITEMS ARE LISTED AT PARAGRAPH 32. 
 
ITALIAN POLITICAL OVERVIEW 
-------------------------- 
2. (U) THE DCM OPENED THE MEETING WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE 
ITALIAN POLITICAL SCENE. HE EMPHASIZED THE PRO-U.S. 
TENDENCIES OF THE BERLUSCONI GOVERNMENT BUT CAUTIONED THAT 
ITALY,S COALITION POLITICS AND ITS PRO-EUROPE POLICIES MEAN 
WE MUST HAVE REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS.  THE U.S. WILL NOT 
ALWAYS BE ABLE TO GET WHAT WE ASK FOR.  RESPECTING ITALY,S 
SOVEREIGNTY REMAINS A CRUCIAL CONSIDERATION WHEN MAKING 
REQUESTS OR DECISIONS. 
 
3. (U) OTHER PARTICIPANTS ADDED THAT ISSWOG PROVIDES A USEFUL 
OPPORTUNITY FOR GERMANY-BASED OFFICIALS TO HEAR PERSPECTIVES 
FROM US AGENCIES IN ITALY THAT CAN SHAPE DECISIONS MADE IN 
GERMANY.  SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF DOING BUSINESS ARE 
SIMILAR IN ITALY AND IN GERMANY, AND SHARING INFORMATION AND 
APPROACHES IS BENEFICIAL.  IN BOTH COUNTRIES, SOME ISSUES 
REQUIRE A FEDERAL RESPONSE AND OTHERS ARE MORE CONSTRUCTIVELY 
HANDLED AT A LOCAL LEVEL.  THE ITALIAN MILITARY OFTEN FACES 
THE SAME POLITICAL LIMITATIONS AS THE US MILITARY.  WE NEED 
TO KEEP THIS IN MIND, AND MAKE SURE OUR REQUESTS TO THE GOI 
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
PAGE 03        ROME  04122  01 OF 05  221722Z 
ARE REASONABLE, BALANCED AND EQUITABLE. 
 
4. (U) ISSWOG ALSO IMPROVES COORDINATION BETWEEN US MILITARY 
AND EMBASSY OFFICIALS TO GIVE A MORE ACCURATE ASSESSMENT OF 
WHAT THE GOI IS DOING IN SUPPORT OF OPERATION ENDURING 
FREEDOM (OEF) AND OTHER ASPECTS OF THE WAR ON TERRORISM. 
EUCOM CAN THEN PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO CENTCOM, WHICH CAN 
PASS IT ON TO THE CONGRESS.  IT IS DIFFICULT TO PUT A DOLLAR 
VALUE ON ITALIAN SUPPORT, SUCH AS MOBILIZING THE GARIBALDI 
AIRCRAFT CARRIER, FOREGONE RENT, AFNS FREQUENCY ALLOCATIONS, 
OR CARABINIERI SUPPORT.  BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO ACCURATELY 
REFLECT THE WIDE RANGE OF CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ITALY IS AND HAS 
BEEN PROVIDING TO THE USG. 
 
BASING VISION UPDATE 
-------------------- 
5. (SBU) THE JCS AND OSD ARE CONSOLIDATING ALL CINC BASING 
STUDIES INTO ONE REPORT DUE DECEMBER 2002.  THE JROC OVERSEAS 
PRESENCE STUDY, DUE OCTOBER 2002, WILL GIVE AN IDEA OF WHAT 
THE DECEMBER REPORT WILL LOOK LIKE AND POSSIBLE 
EUCOM-SPECIFIC CHANGES.  THE REPORTS ARE LIKELY TO EMPHASIZE 
MORE JOINT BASING, AND TO RECOMMEND CONSOLIDATION OF 
NONESSENTIAL INSTALLATIONS IN GERMANY WHERE POSSIBLE. 
CENTRALIZING PEOPLE ONTO LARGER, CONSOLIDATED BASES WILL MAKE 
IT MORE DIFFICULT TO BUILD RAPPORT AND POSITIVE CONNECTIONS 
WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES.  THE US MILITARY WILL HAVE TO DO ANY 
EVEN BETTER JOB OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH UNDER THESE 
CIRCUMSTANCES. 
 
6. (SBU) NO BASES IN ITALY ARE BEING TARGETED FOR REALIGNMENT 
AT THIS TIME.  THIS WILL BE REASSURING NEWS FOR THE GOI, 
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
PAGE 04        ROME  04122  01 OF 05  221722Z 
WHICH HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN THE US MILITARY,S 
LONG-TERM PLANS FOR ITALY.  IT MIGHT MAKE DOING BUSINESS 
EASIER IF THE GOI KNEW THAT THE US IS MAKING LONG-TERM 
INVESTMENTS IN BASE IMPROVEMENTS IN ITALY.  FOR US MILITARY 
PLANNING PURPOSES, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE PERIODIC 
REPORTS BY EACH SERVICE THAT DETAIL EXPECTED FUTURE LAND 
ACQUISITION NEEDS.  AT AN APPROPRIATE POINT, THAT INFORMATION 
SHOULD BE SHARED WITH THE GOI. 
 
7. (U) CAMP DARBY IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF AN EXISTING JOINT BASE 
(AF, ARMY), WITH AVIANO, VICENZA AND DARBY FUNCTIONING AS A 
JOINT OPERATION.  REPAIRS AT CAMP DARBY WILL LIKELY NEED TO 
BE FUNDED BY THE USG BECAUSE NATO FUNDS ARE NOT AVAILABLE. 
EUCOM IS WAITING FOR USAFE AND USAEUR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW BEST 
TO USE THE FACILITY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO THE THEATRE AT 
LARGE.  USAEUR HAS THE LEAD ON COMPILING A REPORT BY THE END 
OF MAY 2002 ON WHERE THE SERVICES PREFER TO HAVE 
PRE-POSITIONED STOCKS LOCATED.  THE DCM NOTED THAT, IF THE 
MILITARY DECIDES TO CLOSE DARBY, IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO BE 
CLEAR ABOUT WHY BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A STRONG RESPONSE FROM 
 
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
                           UNCLASSIFIED     PTQ5555 
 
PAGE 01        ROME  04122  02 OF 05  221723Z 
ACTION PM-00 
 
INFO  LOG-00   NP-00    ACQ-00   CIAE-00  DOTE-00  EB-00    EUR-00 
      FAAE-00  UTED-00  TEDE-00  INR-00   LAB-01   L-00     DCP-01 
      NSAE-00  IRM-00   TEST-00  PMB-00   DRL-02   SAS-00     /004W 
                  ------------------DCBE3A  221723Z /38 
R 221711Z AUG 02 
FM AMEMBASSY ROME 
TO SECSTATE WASHDC 5540 
INFO SECDEF WASHDC 
USCINCEUR VAIHINGEN GE 
NAS SIGONELLA IT 
HQ MARFOREUR BOEBLINGEN GE 
HQ EUCOM VAIHINGEN GE//ECJ3-CI/ECJ23-H// 
COMSIXTHFLT 
COMFAIRMED NAPLES IT 
CINCUSNAVEUR LONDON UK 
CDRUSAREUR HEIDELBERG GE 
CDR USASETAF VICENZA IT 
CDR USAFE RAMSTEIN AB GE 
16AF AVIANO AB IT 
31FW AVIANO AB IT 
 
UNCLAS SECTION 02 OF 05 ROME 004122 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: MARR FORCES IN ITALY
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
PAGE 02        ROME  04122  02 OF 05  221723Z 
SUBJECT: ITALY STATIONING AND SOVEREIGNTY WORKING GROUP 
MEETING MINUTES 
 
THE GOI. 
 
8. (U) LA MADDALENA HAS SERVED AS AN IMPORTANT MAINTENANCE 
SITE FOR THE EUROPEAN THEATRE FOR 28 YEARS.  THE NAVY HAS 
DECIDED TO CONTINUE TO USE THE FACILITY FOR THE LONG-TERM, 
BUT WANTS TO CONSOLIDATE OPERATIONS ONTO ONE PROPERTY INSTEAD 
OF THE CURRENT 33 FACILITIES ON 17 SITES ON THREE ISLANDS. 
THE CINC HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO THE IDGS AND IS AWAITING 
A RESPONSE. 
 
9. (U) THE DCM ENCOURAGED PRODUCING A UNIFIED BASING STRATEGY 
AMONG US MILITARY SERVICES WITHIN ITALY TO ENSURE THAT WHAT 
WE DO AT ONE FACILITY DOESN,T INADVERTENTLY DISADVANTAGE 
ANOTHER.  HE SUGGESTED THIS TOPIC BE UPDATED AT THE NEXT 
ISSWOG MEETING. 
 
JMC REPORT AND INPUT 
-------------------- 
10. (U) JMC ORGANIZATION. FOLLOWING TWO USEFUL MEETINGS WITH 
ITALIAN COUNTERPARTS, THE JOINT MILITARY COMMISSION (JMC) IS 
WORKING EFFECTIVELY AND BEGINNING TO PRODUCE RESULTS. LOCAL 
JMCS ARE BEING ORGANIZED TO ADDRESS LOCAL AND SHORT-TERM 
ISSUES, INCLUDING THOSE INVOLVING CIVILIAN COMMUNITIES. 
BROADER ISSUES THAT ARISE WILL BE REFERRED TO THE FULL JMC, 
WHICH CAN THEN PASS LONG-TERM, STRATEGIC BILATERAL ISSUES TO 
THE ISSWOG FOR CONSIDERATION AS NECESSARY.  THE JMC IS A 
MIL-MIL FORUM; THE ISSWOG WILL HANDLE THE POL-MIL ISSUES THAT 
ARISE.  PARTICIPANTS NOTED THAT, WHEN USG PLANS AND PROPOSALS 
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ARE FIRST DISCUSSED AT THE JMC (AFTER BEING VETTED BY US 
COMPONENTS), THEY TEND TO BE BETTER RECEIVED BY ITALIAN 
COUNTERPARTS BECAUSE THEY ARE APT TO BE SEEN AS A JOINT 
DECISION TO PROCEED.  IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE JMC HAS THE 
AUTHORITY TO TAKE ACTION AND DECISIONS ON THOSE ISSUES WITHIN 
ITS PURVIEW. 
 
11. (U) TECHNICAL ARRANGEMENTS (TAS): GENERAL PETROSKY 
CONFIRMED THAT HE HAS AUTHORIZED THE JMC CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE 
TAS ONCE THEY HAVE BEEN COORDINATED WITH ALL SERVICES AND 
LEGAL ADVISORS.  THE ITALIAN JMC CO-CHAIR ALREADY HAS THIS 
AUTHORITY. 
 
12. (SBU) SIGONELLA TA: ODC REPORTED THAT THE SIGONELLA TA IS 
ABOUT 85% COMPLETE.  BOTH ITALY AND THE US WANT THE SIG TA 
SIGNED; GEN. COCCOZZA, THE ITALIAN CO-CHAIR OF THE JMC, MADE 
IT CLEAR AT THE JMC MEETING THAT THE GOI DOES NOT WANT TO 
RENEGOTIATE EXISTING AGREEMENTS.  DISCUSSIONS ARE MOVING 
FORWARD, WITH AN EMPHASIS ON RECONCILING THE US NEED FOR 
FLEXIBILITY (AS PROVIDED UNDER THE SHELL AGREEMENT) AND THE 
ITALIAN PREFERENCE FOR ELIMINATING AMBIGUITIES WHERE 
POSSIBLE.  PARTICIPANTS AGREED THAT OPENING BROAD 
RENEGOTIATIONS WOULD LIKELY JEOPARDIZE ADVANTAGES THAT EXIST 
UNDER THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT.  THE MORE SPECIFIC THE SHELL 
AGREEMENT AND ANNEXES BECOME, THE LESS FLEXIBLE AND USEFUL 
THEY ARE IN RESPONDING TO NEW SITUATIONS AND NEEDS.  IN 
ADDITION, DESPITE A MORE PRO-AMERICAN SLANT, PRIME MINISTER 
BERLUSCONI HAS BEEN LESS HELPFUL AND MORE CAUTIOUS ON ISSUES 
WITH DOMESTIC IMPACT, SUCH AS US MILITARY PRESENCE IN ITALY. 
HE MAY NOT BE IN A POSITION TO SUPPORT SOME USG REQUESTS. 
 
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13. (U) RESIDUAL VALUE: THE ITALIANS MAINTAIN THAT THE GOI 
HAS NOT OFFICIALLY ACCEPTED RETURNED INFRASTRUCTURE UNTIL THE 
VALUE HAS BEEN DETERMINED, IN PART DUE TO CONCERNS ABOUT 
INHERITING REPAIR/MAINTENANCE COSTS AND COSTS OF SECURING THE 
PROPERTY.  THEY WOULD LIKE TO NEGOTIATE SOME CHANGES IN ANNEX 
B TO THE SHELL AGREEMENT TO CLARIFY THE PROCESS.  US SENDING 
STATE REPRESENTATIVES POINTED OUT THAT, WHILE THE JMC CAN 
INTERPRET ANNEX B, IT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE AUTHORITY TO 
NEGOTIATE CHANGES.  TO DO SO WOULD REQUIRE REVISED CIRCULAR 
175 NEGOTIATING AUTHORITY.  MILITARY LAWYERS ARE REVIEWING 
THE SCOPE OF EXISTING CIRCULAR 175 AUTHORITY, WHICH WILL BE 
USEFUL IN DEVELOPING PROCEDURES TO INTERPRET THE ANNEXES AND 
SHELL AGREEMENT. 
 
14. (U) JMC CHAIR:  THE JMC RECOMMENDS THAT ADMIRAL MIKE 
HOLMES SUCCEED GENERAL WAGNER AS THE US JMC CHAIR.  THE AIR 
FORCE CONCURS.  THE NEXT JMC MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR 
SEPTEMBER AT SIGONELLA.  AN UPDATE ON JMC ACTIVITIES WILL BE 
PROVIDED AT THE NEXT ISSWOG MEETING. 
 
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FORCE PROTECTION 
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15. (U) THE FORCE PROTECTION WORKING GROUP MET IN AUGUST 
2001, BEFORE THE SEPTEMBER 11 ATTACKS, TO EXAMINE US FORCE 
PROTECTION NEEDS IN ITALY.  ADM. HOLMES REPORTED THAT THE US 
NAVY HAS SIGNED A FP MOU WITH SPAIN TO FORMALIZE EXISTING FP 
MEASURES.  A SIMILAR MOU WITH ITALY HAS BEEN FORWARDED IN 
DRAFT TO CINCUSNAVEUR FOR VETTING (BY END OF MAY).  ONCE 
OTHER SERVICES IN ITALY HAVE REVIEWED THE MOU, IT WILL GO TO 
THE EMBASSY FOR REVIEW AND THEN TO THE JMC AND ISSWOG. 
 
16. (U) WHILE THE SPANISH MOU COVERS US SHIPS AT MILITARY 
FACILITIES AND NOT AT COMMERCIAL PORTS, WHICH CONSTITUTES THE 
MAJORITY IN ITALY, THE SPANISH TEMPLATE IS A USEFUL STARTING 
POINT.  KEEPING THE FLEXIBILITY THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IS 
CRUCIAL; AN MOU THAT CREATES A NATIONAL POLICY THAT REDUCES 
FLEXIBILITY TO RESPOND TO EACH FACILITY,S PARTICULAR NEEDS 
WOULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. THE FPWG CAN REVIEW THE DRAFT MOU 
AT ITS NEXT MEETING AND EVALUATE WHETHER A SERVICE BY SERVICE 
MOU WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. 
 
17. (U) PARTICIPANTS AGREED THAT THE GOI IS FULFILLING ITS FP 
RESPONSIBILITIES AND MEETING USG FP REQUIREMENTS.  THE 
ITALIANS TAKE IT SO SERIOUSLY THAT IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO 
TEST THE SYSTEM; SOMEONE IS LIKELY TO BE FIRED IF A WEAKNESS 
IS DISCOVERED DURING A TEST. 
 
18. (U) COVER LICENSE PLATE INITIATIVE.  SENDING STATE HAS 
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WORKED WITH MINISTRY OF INTERIOR AND MINISTRY OF 
TRANSPORTATION CONTACTS TO AMEND ITALIAN LAW TO ALLOCATE 5000 
LICENSE PLATES TO THE US MILITARY TO MANAGE AND DISTRIBUTE 
APPROPRIATELY.  AS OF MAY 3, THE BILL CONTAINING THE 
AMENDMENT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS AND 
IS WITH THE CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES.  ONCE THE BILL HAS BEEN 
PASSED, SENDING STATE WILL WORK WITH THE GOI ON IMPLEMENTING 
REGULATIONS. 
 
19. (U) ACTION ON FORCE PROTECTION TOPIC FOR THE NEXT ISSWOG 
MEETING: 
--   THE FORCE PROTECTION WORKING GROUP WILL MEET AND REVIEW 
THE DRAFT FP MOU PREPARED BY USN TO EVALUATE WHETHER A 
SERVICE BY SERVICE MOU WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO ONE 
COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT.  UPDATE AT NEXT ISSWOG. 
--  SENDING STATE WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK PROGRESS OF 
LEGISLATIVE AMENDMENT AND WILL WORK ON IMPLEMENTING 
REGULATIONS.  UPDATE AT NEXT ISSWOG. 
 
AFNS 
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20. (SBU) ISSWOG PARTICIPANTS COMMENDED THE JMC FOR MAKING 
GREAT PROGRESS ON RESOLVING THE DISPUTE WITH ITALY OVER 
FREQUENCY ALLOCATION AND BROADCAST OF AFNS; FURTHER PROOF 
THAT THE JMC IS A USEFUL BODY FOR RESOLVING ISSUES.  GENERAL 
COCOZZA HAS NOT YET RESPONDED TO GENERAL WAGNER,S LETTER 
REQUESTING A TWO YEAR EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT FREQUENCY 
ALLOCATION.  THIS IS LIKELY TO BE THE LAST TIME THE IDGS WILL 
LOAN THE FREQUENCY BECAUSE THE GOI NEEDS TO PROVIDE 
FREQUENCIES TO ITALIAN FIRE, POLICE, ETC.  IF NO RESPONSE IS 
RECEIVED BY SEPTEMBER, ODC AND POL-MIL WILL APPROACH THEIR 
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CONTACTS. 
 
21. (SBU) GENERAL RALSTON REQUESTED THAT OSD DEVELOP A 
LONG-TERM SOLUTION, SUCH AS PURCHASING SATELLITES FOR 
PERSONNEL.  OSD IS CONSIDERING THIS, ALONG WITH A FUNDING 
REQUEST FOR $35 MILLION FOR EUROPE.  DOD LAWYERS AND THE 
COMPTROLLER ARE CONCERNED ABOUT USING ONM MONEY FOR WHAT IS, 
ESSENTIALLY, A PERSONAL PURCHASE.  J6 AND AFNS, DIRECTOR ARE 
MEETING WITH THE LAWYERS AND COMPTROLLER.  FUNDING FOR 
SATELLITE PURCHASES WILL BE A TOUGH SELL IN WASHINGTON. 
EUCOM AGREED TO TALK WITH EUCOM PUBLIC AFFAIRS 
REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT THEIR STRATEGY FOR SUPPORTING THIS 
REQUEST: FORCE PROTECTION AND QUALITY OF LIFE ARE TWO 
IMPORTANT ARGUMENTS UNDERLYING THE REQUEST FOR FUNDING. 
ULTIMATELY, IF AFNS IS NOT ABLE TO REACH SERVICE PERSONNEL, 
AFNS, REASON FOR BEING MAY BE QUESTIONED MORE FUNDAMENTALLY. 
 
22. (U) ALSO NO RESPONSE FROM THE GOI TO THE USG REQUEST 
PRESENTED IN AUGUST 2001 FOR A COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT (AFNS 
TECHNICAL ANNEX) THAT WOULD COVER ALL FACILITIES AND ALL 37 
 
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ANTENNAE. THIS WOULD IMPROVE ON THE 1982 AGREEMENT THAT 
GRANTS AFNS THE RIGHT TO BROADCAST ON AN &AS AVAILABLE8 
BASIS BUT DOESN,T ASSIGN FREQUENCIES.  AMBASSADOR SEMBLER 
DISCUSSED THE ISSUE DURING A RECENT LUNCH WITH MINISTER OF 
COMMUNICATIONS GASPARRI. 
 
23. (U) AS FOR THE TWO TRANSMITTERS IN THE NAPLES AREA THAT 
THE GOI SHUT DOWN LAST YEAR, THE PARTIES HAVE AGREED TO 
CONDUCT JOINT TESTING AT THE SITE TO DETERMINE IF AFNS IS/WAS 
EXCEEDING EMISSION LIMITS.  IF NEEDED, SENDING STATE AND 
POL-MIL WILL WORK THROUGH DIPLOMATIC CHANNELS TO RESOLVE THE 
DISPUTE. 
 
24. (U) ACTION ON AFNS ISSUES FOR NEXT ISSWOG. 
--  ODC/POL-MIL WILL TRACK IDGS RESPONSE TO REQUEST FOR TWO 
YEAR EXTENSION OF FREQUENCY ALLOCATION, AND WILL APPROACH 
CONTACTS IF NO ACTION BY SEPTEMBER.  UPDATE AT NEXT ISSWOG. 
--  EUCOM WILL TRACK ISSUE OF USG FUNDING TO PURCHASE 
SATELLITE UNITS FOR PERSONNEL OR ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS. 
UPDATE AT NEXT ISSWOG. 
--  SENDING STATE/EMBASSY WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR A 
COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT.  UPDATE AT NEXT ISSWOG. 
--  SENDING STATE/EMBASSY WILL MONITOR PROGRESS ON THE 
DISPUTE REGARDING BROADCASTS IN THE NAPLES AREA.  UPDATE AT 
NEXT ISSWOG. 
 
MILNOISE STUDY UPDATE 
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25. (U) AFTER 4 YEARS OF DELAY, MILNOISE TESTING AT AVIANO IS 
MOVING FORWARD.  METHODOLOGIES HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED TO ENSURE 
THAT TESTS CONDUCTED WILL BE VALID ACCORDING TO STANDARDIZED 
PROTOCOLS.  A CONCERNED LOCAL GROUP HAD FORCED PROGRESS ON 25 
PROJECTS AT AVIANO WORTH $41.6 MILLION TO HALT UNTIL THEY 
RECEIVED INFORMATION REGARDING THE IMPACT OF MILNOISE ON 
PROPERTY VALUES AND A DEFINITE DATE FOR THE START OF THE 
AVIANO MILNOISE STUDY.  A VOTE IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 8 TO GET 
THE PROJECTS BACK ON TRACK.  MEETINGS WILL BE HELD IN 
MID-JUNE TO FORMALIZE THE PROTOCOLS, WITH THE NOISE STUDY 
SCHEDULED TO BE CONDUCTED IN JULY.  ESTABLISHING HOW THE 
STUDY RESULTS WILL BE USED AND BY WHOM WILL BE IMPORTANT.  AT 
THIS TIME, EUCOM HAS NOT REPORTED TO OSD THAT ANY MILITARY 
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN ITALY ARE IN JEOPARDY.  IF THE MAY 8 
VOTE DOES NOT FREE THE AVIANO PROJECTS, EUCOM NEEDS TO KNOW 
IMMEDIATELY. 
 
26. (U) ACTION FOR NEXT ISSWOG. USAFE WILL NOTIFY EUCOM IF 
AVIANO MILITARY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE IN JEOPARDY, AND 
WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON STUDY RESULTS AT NEXT ISSWOG. 
 
TRAINING AREAS 
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27. (U) ENTS ON SOME TRAINING AREAS IN ITALY AND ELSEWHERE, 
INCLUDING TRAINING IN ITALIAN AIRSPACE, ARE IMPACTING THE US 
MILITARY,S ABILITY TO OPERATE.  USG IS WORKING WITH THE IDGS 
TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.  ONE WAY IS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE IN 
TECHNICAL ARRANGEMENTS AS THEY ARE NEGOTIATED.  ANOTHER IS TO 
ASSIST THE MOD WITH ITALIAN TRAINING NEEDS OUTSIDE OF ITALY. 
GEN. WAGNER REPORTED THAT SETAF HAS NOT EXPERIENCED THIS; IN 
FACT, ADDITIONAL RANGES HAVE BEEN OPENED FOR SETAF USE. 
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EMBASSY ASSISTANCE MAY BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE BUT NOT AT 
THIS POINT. 
THIS ISSUE WILL BE UPDATED AT THE NEXT ISSWOG. 
 
TRUCK TRAFFIC ROAD RESTRICTIONS 
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28. (U) USAFE WOULD LIKE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH ITALY TO 
MOVE MILITARY GOODS BY ROAD ON THOSE DAYS THAT TRUCK TRAFFIC 
IS PROHIBITED.  SUCH AN AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REACHED WITH 
GERMANY.  ODC SUGGESTED USAFE SEND A LETTER WITH THE REQUEST 
TO ODC FOR FORWARDING TO THE IDGS AS THE BEST WAY TO BEGIN 
THE PROCESS.  A SIMILAR LETTER COULD BE SENT TO THE IDGS 
REGARDING CARABINIERI ESCORTS WHEN MOVING HAZARDOUS 
MATERIALS.  IT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR THE ARMY TO REVIEW THE 
ISSUE WITH USAFE TO SEE WHETHER PROCEDURES THE ARMY CURRENTLY 
HAS IN PLACE CAN BE OF HELP.  GENERAL PETROSKY SUGGESTED 
USAFE WORK THROUGH EUCOM J4 BEFORE APPROACHING THE MOD. 
 
29. (U) ACTION FOR NEXT ISSWOG. USAFE WILL WORK WITH EUCOM J4 
AND USAREUR TO SEE WHETHER EXISTING PROCEDURES ADEQUATELY 
 
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ADDRESS PROBLEM. 
 
NEXT ISSWOG MEETING 
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30. (U) THE NEXT ISSWOG WILL BE HOSTED BY SETAF AT VICENZA ON 
DECEMBER 16-17, 2002. 
 
CLOSING REMARKS 
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31. (U) GENERAL PETROSKY EXPRESSED HIS SINCERE THANKS TO DCM 
BILL POPE FOR REVIVING THE ISSWOG.  IT HAS PROVEN TO BE VERY 
PRODUCTIVE AND A VALUABLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION.  THE DCM, 
WHO RETURNED TO WASHINGTON IN JUNE, STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE 
OF HAVING BASE COMMANDERS ATTEND THE ISSWOG, EVEN AS THE JMC 
CHANGES THE DYNAMICS OF THE GROUP.  HIS FAREWELL REMARKS WERE 
INTERRUPTED BY A CALL FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. 
 
PARTICIPANTS AND AGENDA 
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32.(U) PRIMARY PARTICIPANTS: 
LTG DANIEL PETROSKY     CHIEF OF STAFF, EUCOM 
WILLIAM POPE                  DEPUTY CHIEF OF MISSION, EMB. 
ROME 
LTG MICHAEL DODSON            DEPUTY COMMANDING GENERAL, 
USAREUR 
RADM MICHAEL HOLMES           COMFAIRMED 
BRIGGEN. DONALD HOFFMAN USAFE/CV 31 FW/CC 
GARY ROBBINS                  POLITICAL-MILITARY COUNSELOR 
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COL. MARK DEVLIN        CHIEF ODC, ROME 
CAPT. JOHN OLIVER       OIC OF U.S. SENDING STATE OFFICE 
COL. J.P. MANLEY        DEFENSE ATTACHE OFFICE 
 
TOPIC PAPERS AND LEAD AGENCY: 
-- BASING VISION UPDATE       EUCOM/USAREUR, NAVEUR, USAFE 
-- JMC REPORT                       JMC CHAIRMAN 
-- JMC INPUT                        USAREUR 
-- FORCE PROTECTION                 COMFAIRMED/EMBASSY 
-- AFNS STATUS UPDATE         USSSO 
-- MILNOISE STUDY UPDATE            USAFE 
-- TRAINING AREAS             USAFE 
-- TRUCK ROAD RESTRICTIONS    USAFE 
 
SKODON 
 
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