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Viewing cable 09MONTERREY352, NUEVO LEON LEADERS DISCUSS PUBLIC SECURITY CHALLENGES AHEAD

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09MONTERREY352 2009-09-24 00:27 2011-08-26 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Consulate Monterrey
VZCZCXRO2907
PP RUEHCD RUEHGD RUEHHO RUEHNG RUEHNL RUEHRD RUEHRS RUEHTM
DE RUEHMC #0352/01 2670027
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
P 240027Z SEP 09
FM AMCONSUL MONTERREY
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 3942
INFO RUEHXC/ALL US CONSULATES IN MEXICO COLLECTIVE
RUCPDOC/DEPT OF COMMERCE WASHINGTON DC
RHMFIUU/DEPT OF JUSTICE WASHINGTON DC
RUEABND/DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMIN HQ WASHINGTON DC
RHMFIUU/FBI WASHINGTON DC
RHMFIUU/HQ USNORTHCOM
RUEHME/AMEMBASSY MEXICO PRIORITY 5017
RUEHMC/AMCONSUL MONTERREY 9548
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 MONTERREY 000352 
 
SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE PASS TO ONDCP - BRAD HITTLE 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: KCRM SNAR PREL PGOV ECON MX
SUBJECT: NUEVO LEON LEADERS DISCUSS PUBLIC SECURITY CHALLENGES AHEAD 
 
REF: A) MONTERREY 213 B) MONTERREY 297 C) MONTERREY 307 
 
MONTERREY 00000352  001.2 OF 002 
 
 
1. (SBU) Summary.  The annual Border Governors Conference which 
took place in Monterrey from September 2 - 4 offered the 
Ambassador and Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) 
Director Gil Kerlikowske multiple fora to examine the state of 
public security in Nuevo Leon.  While the state government has 
worked in the past year to improve security, it has yet to 
achieve concrete results.  On the contrary, many voices, public 
and private, continue to describe a deteriorating situation. 
While most called for increased resources and cooperation 
between agencies at all levels - including those of the US and 
Mexico - fundamental challenges remain in terms of diminishing 
the influence of the trafficking cartels over public 
institutions. 
 
 
 
2. (SBU) In a bilateral meeting with the Ambassador and ONDCP 
Director Kerlikowske, Nuevo Leon Governor Jose Natividad 
Gonzalez Paras noted that the state still must do more to gain 
control over police forces.  He explained that his government is 
working on plans to restructure the police and root out 
corruption, but that it was difficult to bring cultural change 
to organizations fundamentally resistant to it.  He was hopeful 
that advanced training - in which 1400 officers at the federal 
and state level have participated thus far - would yield 
benefits.  The Governor also expressed optimism that the 
integrated command and control centers now established in 11 
different municipalities of the state would have an impact on 
organized crime.  As he often does in meetings with US 
interlocutors, Governor Gonzalez Paras emphasized the importance 
of the USG stemming the flow of arms and cash to Mexican drug 
cartels from U.S. sources. 
 
 
 
3. (SBU) At a separate meeting with Nuevo Leon's Citizen's 
Advisory Committee on Public Security, Committee Chair Carlos 
Juaregui (an NGO representative) told the Ambassador and 
Director Kerlikowske that citizen initiatives to root out 
corruption among police forces would have a noticeable impact 
within two years.  He referred in particular to planned 
mechanisms whereby local citizen councils would review police 
chiefs monthly; the results of such reviews would be published 
in local newspapers, with substandard performance leading to 
possible sanctions.  He also described plans for penal reforms 
aimed at providing educational opportunities for minor offenders 
with the hopes of preventing them from joining the ranks of 
organized crime during their incarceration. 
 
 
 
4. (SBU) The Ambassador applauded the Committee's efforts, 
noting that the involvement of civil society is essential to the 
struggle to improve security.  State and local law enforcement 
would need to be key players in the fight, he declared. 
Juaregui emphasized that reducing poverty was the true key to 
addressing security problems in Nuevo Leon.  He pointed out that 
many municipal police earn salaries below the established 
poverty level.  Finally, Juaregui echoed the need to stem the 
flow of arms and cash from the United States, amplifying that 
popular opinion in Nuevo Leon is that the USG is not doing 
enough achieve this. 
 
 
 
5. (SBU) Perhaps the most candid voice in all of the discussions 
was that of the State Secretary of Public Security, Aldo Fasci 
Zuazua.  In his meeting with the Ambassador, and ONDCP Director 
Kerlikowske, he pointed out that 25% of the officers who have 
undergone polygraph tests to screen for reliability failed (he 
was  quoted in the leading local daily "El Norte" the week prior 
as quantifying that number as in excess of 2,500).  Fasci voiced 
his dismay that even officers who had passed this screening 
process had later been apprehended for connections to organized 
crime.  Kerlikowske noted that the U.S. experience had been that 
talented police chiefs really could make a difference in 
establishing order.  Fasci replied that few of the current crop 
of police chiefs actually had the needed expertise and training, 
resulting in a deficit in leadership and supervision. 
Accordingly, he felt it had been a mistake to share intelligence 
information with municipal police, in particular, because they 
too often passed such data to organized crime. 
 
 
MONTERREY 00000352  002.2 OF 002 
 
 
 
 
6. (SBU) Fasci did advocate, however, sharing intelligence among 
other security agencies, such as the army and the federal and 
state police.  He explained that the current task force concept 
helps to "depersonalize" the fight against organized crime, 
thereby reducing individual agents' exposure to retribution. 
Fasci discussed his hopes for even greater interagency 
cooperation once Nuevo Leon's Command, Control, Communication 
and Coordination Center (C5) became fully operational.  The C5 
will consolidate Nuevo Leon's current 96 separate emergency 
numbers into one number, and will host representatives of all 
law enforcement agencies in order to facilitate coordination and 
the sharing of intelligence.  It will possess interactive 
screens which will track security events coded by color on a 
projected map, as well as the location of security patrols via 
uploaded GPS information.  The latter information, he added, may 
help supervisors fight corruption by alerting them to patrols 
outside their assigned routes or spending a suspicious amount of 
time in any particular location. 
 
 
 
7. (SBU) Comment.  While Fasci's successor - a new gubernatorial 
administration takes office in Nuevo Leon on October 4 - could 
establish sophisticated protocols within the C5 to 
compartmentalize intelligence, there is a wider question if even 
this will be enough given the level of infiltration witnessed 
among all police agencies in Nuevo Leon (reftel A).  As Fasci's 
public warning regarding growing rogue behavior on the part of 
police forces indicates, the "Command and Control" function of 
the C5 is already much in question; many members of the local 
community fear that information shared at the C5 will ultimately 
be used to the benefit of organized crime. 
 
 
 
8. (SBU) Comment continued.  Understood in all of these meetings 
was the need for more resources to implement reform.  While most 
officials voiced gratitude for the Merida Initiative, some said 
that the assistance provided to date, especially to the state 
and local governments, had been insufficient to make a 
difference.  As current economic conditions have resulted in 
falling budget revenues and increased debt at all levels of 
government, it is unclear where the resources will be found to 
employ more professional and better paid police forces.  Barring 
that eventuality, it is difficult to see how any of the proposed 
reforms can gain traction in the fight against organized crime. 
End Comment. 
GRANDFIELDM