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Viewing cable 08NEWDELHI2558, REES DELIVERS UNGA 3RD COMMITTEE 2008 HUMAN RIGHTS

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08NEWDELHI2558 2008-09-22 14:19 2011-08-26 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED Embassy New Delhi
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UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 03 NEW DELHI 002558 
 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PHUM PREL UN IN
SUBJECT: REES DELIVERS UNGA 3RD COMMITTEE 2008 HUMAN RIGHTS 
PRIORITIES, MEETS UN AGENCIES 
 
REF: STATE 095334 
 
1.  (SBU) Summary:  On September 5, visiting Special 
Representative for Social Issues Grover Joseph Rees delivered 
reftel points to the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) Joint 
Secretary (UN - Economic and Social) Manjeev Singh Puri. 
Puri took all points on board; periodically rejoined by 
underscoring Indian sensitivities vis--vis freedoms of 
expression, sovereignty and other NAM themes; and urged the 
United States to reconsider its involvement with the UN Human 
Rights Council.  Special Representative Rees also touched 
upon India's leadership role in the Asia Pacific Democracy 
Partnership (APDP) and expressed USG disappointment with 
India's unhelpful role in the Community of Democracies. 
 
2.  (SBU) Rees also met with UN agencies based in New Delhi 
and constituent UN offices in Pune.  He conducted a number of 
site visits throughout India to review the plight of 
vulnerable women, children and other oppressed groups and to 
assess the effectiveness of UN-supported programs and 
activities to protect and assist members of these groups. 
End Summary. 
 
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No-Action Motions 
----- 
 
3.  (SBU) Rees opened his meeting with JS Puri by noting 
that, in terms of shared values and on numerous political 
issues, there is no country that the United States tends to 
agree more with than India.  However, the low voting 
coincidence at the UN must be examined.  Rees underscored 
that, in our efforts to promote human rights, the United 
States wants to take a principled stand against all no-action 
motions and to permit full and open debate on the merits of 
the serious human rights issues that are raised in thematic 
and country-specific human rights resolutions.  Puri 
responded that, "if you and I are willing to talk straight, 
then all country-specific resolutions are purely political." 
Puri suggested that the United States' judgment of what is 
right or wrong, versus the judgment of any other third 
country, is the result of politics.  "Half the world doesn't 
think as you think - don't say you are on the side of right." 
 Puri noted that no-action motions are largely procedural and 
it is not possible, from his perspective, to de-link the 
political component. 
 
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Country-Specific Resolutions 
----- 
 
4. (SBU) Rees reviewed the USG position on a number of 
country-specific resolutions:  On Belarus, Rees said the U.S. 
welcomes the recent release of political prisoners by Minsk 
in August.  He explained that, as in previous years, the U.S. 
will strongly support a resolution to be offered by Canada on 
the situation of human rights in Iran and will work with 
other countries to win its passage.  Rees pressed that the 
situation in Burma is disintegrating and, while the 
international community wants to be helpful, we cannot ignore 
the human rights situation.  Rees said that the USG 
understands the EU plans to offer its annual resolution on 
the abysmal human rights situation in the Democratic People's 
Republic of Korea.  Finally, Rees pressed that the human 
rights situations in Sudan and Zimbabwe both merit Third 
Committee attention and invited Puri,s views.  Unless 
current negotiations produce a result that respects the March 
29 polling and brings real change to the human rights 
situation, the U.S. believes that, depending on how 
circumstances in Zimbabwe develop in the coming weeks, a 
resolution on Zimbabwe might be useful toward a resolution of 
the crisis.  Recognizing that the Sudan human rights 
situation remains dire, Rees noted that offering resolutions 
on both Zimbabwe and Sudan in the 2008 Third Committee could 
be problematic and potentially counterproductive. 
 
5. (SBU) Puri said that the GOI would consider all of the 
USG's points, but noted that the GOI "takes each resolution 
on a case-by-case basis."  As a general policy, Puri 
explained, India does not favor country-specific resolutions. 
 Turning first to Burma, Puri noted that the GOI has 
consistently believed that interaction and engagement is more 
useful and productive than sanctions or isolation.  Moving to 
Sudan, Puri noted that an argument that Third Committee 
consideration of the situation there is not needed since the 
matter also lay before the Security Council was dismissive of 
the General Assembly's status.  Puri continued that there are 
54 countries in Africa, 10 of which "want to show up Mr. 
Mugabe" and about 45 that do not.  While acknowledging the 
 
NEW DELHI 00002558  002 OF 003 
 
 
merit of Rees's points on Zimbabwe and Sudan, Puri said that 
the GOI position (vis--vis the African countries) is 
unlikely to change much.  Zimbabwe, Puri said, is conscious 
of what the world is saying and doing.  Finally, circling 
back to Iran, Puri noted that "it is a difficult case" and 
acknowledged that India understands the USG position.  (Note: 
Puri had traveled to Iran the previous month. End Note.) 
 
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Thematic Resolutions 
----- 
 
6. (SBU) Rees noted that India was very helpful with the 
recent resolution in the UN Human Rights Council renewing the 
mandate of the Special Rapporteur for Freedom of Expression 
resolution, even withdrawing its co-sponsorship after the 
resolution was amended to require that the Rapporteur report 
on "abuses" of freedom of expression by individuals.   Puri 
countered that India looks at this resolution very 
differently and views it in the context of India's diverse, 
complex society that is hugely pluralistic and often 
volatile.  In India, Puri explained, "we're very careful and 
err on the side of being conservative."  Rees rejoined that 
the Defamation of Religion resolutions sponsored by Pakistan 
have been used by some countries to justify undermining the 
freedoms of expression, religion and belief.  Puri said that 
India had very little problem with the idea of a freedom of 
expression resolution, but India must be careful not to do 
anything that would be (domestically) provocative.  He 
illustrated his point by raising Solomon Rushdie,s banned 
books and, when Rushdie visits India, he'll "do things 
that'll have an impact.  Why do his rights trample on the 
rights of others?  We are 60 years into our democracy and 
each little sector feels that their rights are important." 
 
----- 
Human Rights Council 
----- 
 
7. (SBU) Turning to the U.S. decision to withdraw from the 
Human Rights Council (HRC), Puri urged the United States to 
reconsider its engagement with the UN.  "In our view, 
non-active engagement, particularly on human rights, doesn't 
make sense."  Puri asserted that the HRC needs the United 
States and pressed Rees to encourage the USG to reconsider 
its role as a pillar of the UN community.  Rees rejoined that 
the USG finds the HRC to be counter-productive and myopic in 
its zeal to focus only on Israel. 
 
----- 
APDP 
----- 
 
8. (SBU) Rees thanked the GOI for its involvement with the 
Asia Pacific Democracy Partnership (APDP), including India's 
support with the Mongolian elections.  In October, Rees said, 
it is hoped that India could send a senior official to 
participate in a meeting in the region - perhaps South Korea 
- as well as play a stronger leadership role in APDP.  Puri 
took copious notes and promised to pass along the suggestion 
to his colleague (Joint Secretary Sanjeev Arora) who is the 
primary GOI liaison for APDP. 
 
----- 
Community of Democracies 
----- 
 
9. (SBU) Rees noted that, in the Community of Democracies, 
everything is done by consensus.  However, in recent history, 
there are three proposed joint statements of the CD Convening 
Group - on Zimbabwe, Mauritania, and Georgia - to which India 
(sometimes joined by South Africa) would not agree. Puri 
again took down notes, commented that the CD was a great idea 
and while India would like to work together, JS Arora was the 
more appropriate point of contact.  Puri promised to pass his 
notes to Arora immediately upon his return to Delhi. 
 
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Other Meetings in India 
----- 
 
10. (SBU) In addition to meeting with the GOI, Rees met with 
UNICEF Country Representative Karin Hulshof and discussed the 
catastrophic floods in Bihar, progress in inoculating 
children against polio, and the status of other at-risk 
children in India.  The Media Coalition and UNIFEM hosted a 
lunch for Special Envoy Rees in which they addressed the 
needs of vulnerable women and girls, especially those who are 
trafficked or otherwise exploited.  Rees conducted a site 
 
NEW DELHI 00002558  003 OF 003 
 
 
visit at Shakti Shalini Shelter for vulnerable women and 
girls, Shakti Vahini's site which works with trafficking 
survivors, and Breakthrough, an NGO that works on domestic 
abuse and HIV/AIDS.  He also traveled extensively with UNIFEM 
and UNICEF branch offices in Pune and surrounding areas. 
 
11. (U) Special Representative Grover Joseph Rees cleared 
this cable. 
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