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Viewing cable 08HANOI1109, DCM Covers Cooperation, Disputes with Vietnam's MPS

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08HANOI1109 2008-09-25 00:25 2011-08-26 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Hanoi
VZCZCXRO0971
RR RUEHHM
DE RUEHHI #1109/01 2690025
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
R 250025Z SEP 08
FM AMEMBASSY HANOI
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC 8535
INFO RUEHHM/AMCONSUL HO CHI MINH 5159
RUEKJCS/SECDEF WASHINGTON DC
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 HANOI 001109 
 
 
SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE FOR EAP/MLS AND DRL 
SECDEF FOR OSD (POLICY) ASIA AND PACIFIC SECURITY AFFAIRS 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PHUM PGOV ECON MOPS PREL VM
SUBJECT: DCM Covers Cooperation, Disputes with Vietnam's MPS 
 
REF: A. HANOI 1044 
 
1. (SBU) Summary: DCM and Ministry of Public Security (MPS) Major 
General To Lam addressed a wide range of issues in their September 
23 meeting.  Lam noted excellent bilateral cooperation in 
counterterrorism and nonproliferation, and discussed MPS's requests 
for assistance.  The DCM pressed for progress in resolving the imits 
on the Ho Chi Minh City consular district, protested the recent 
beating of an Amcit journalist by Vietnamese police, raised concerns 
over the GVN's handling of Catholic Church land protests, and 
pressed for prompt GVN accreditation of new Embassy Hanoi DATT.  End 
summary. 
 
2. (SBU) DCM met with Vietnamese Ministry of Public Security Major 
General To Lam on September 23.  Lam was accompanied by Mr. Nguyen 
The Cong, Deputy Director of the Department of General Security, and 
Mr. Pham Hong Cuong, MPS Human Rights Desk Officer. 
 
MPS Request for Legal, Laundering Assistance 
-------------------------------------------- 
 
3. (SBU) General Lam began by noting the excellent relations between 
MPS and the embassy, which help strengthen the overall U.S.-Vietnam 
bilateral relationship.  The DCM welcomed the MPS's requests for 
assistance in amending their public security and criminal codes, 
anti-money laundering efforts and other areas.  Lam said that as 
Vietnam becomes more globally connected, it must modernize its laws 
and law enforcement practices to international standards.  He noted 
that Vietnam has had particularly good cooperation with the U.S. in 
the area of counter-terrorism.  The U.S. and Vietnam have worked 
together to control arms smuggling and the spread of weapons of mass 
destruction and these are areas where the GVN hopes to deepen our 
bilateral cooperation, Lam said. 
 
Consular District Issue: MPS Knows of No Problems 
--------------------------------------------- ---- 
 
4. (SBU) Turning to the issue of the Ho Chi Minh consular district, 
DCM noted the GVN desire to announce the opening of a consulate in 
Houston during Prime Minister Dung's June visit to the U.S. but said 
the issue of the HCMC consular district had to be resolved first. 
She said that the HCMC consular district was uniquely restricted, 
and that while we respect the GVN's security concerns we want to 
have a consular district that makes sense so we can move forward 
with Vietnamese consulates in the U.S. and better encourage U.S. 
business and tourism in Vietnam.  Lam noted that nine additional 
provinces had been added to the HCMC consular district and said 
that, in principle, there is no restriction on consular officers 
visiting other provinces as long as they make the proper requests in 
advance.  Some provinces, however, may not desire or welcome visits 
by U.S. mission personnel. 
 
5. (SBU) The DCM pointed out that this week we have two officers 
going to Danang, one from embassy Hanoi and one from ConGen HCMC. 
The one from Hanoi is being allowed to have meetings in Danang while 
the officer from HCMC is being denied permission to attend the 
meetings.  This is difficult to understand, the DCM said, 
particularly since Vietnamese diplomats in the U.S. face no similar 
restrictions and MPS Vice Minister Huong recently told Deputy 
Secretary Negroponte there were no such restrictions (reftel).  Lam 
said this was the first he had heard of this problem and said he 
would look into it. 
 
6. (SBU) Lam said that when U.S. diplomats visit political 
dissidents in their travels around the country, it raises the 
suspicions of local governments.  These visits encourage the 
dissidents and harm bilateral relations as people ask how the U.S. 
can have good relations with Vietnam while continuing to meet with 
people who oppose its government.  The DCM responded that U.S. 
diplomats around the world meet with people holding a wide variety 
of views to deepen our understanding of the countries in which we 
serve.  We have very good relations with Vietnam, she said, and we 
believe the GVN understands that the U.S. is not encouraging the 
overthrow of Vietnam's government. 
 
DCM Protests Beating of Journalist 
---------------------------------- 
 
7. (SBU) The DCM expressed concern over the rough handling of an 
American AP journalist detained by police on September 19 as well as 
the escalation of the church land protests he had been reporting 
when detained.  Lam said the journalist had been warned not to enter 
the area where the protests were taking place for security reasons 
but had entered anyway and been injured before being "rescued" by 
the police.  The DCM said that account was completely incorrect; the 
journalist was filmed being taken away by the police and within the 
hour embassy officers saw the journalist bloodied at the police 
 
HANOI 00001109  002 OF 002 
 
 
station.  She pushed for an appropriate reply to our request for an 
investigation of the incident.  In marked contrast to statements 
from the MFA spokesman the day before, Lam responded that MPS is 
taking the incident seriously and will look into it; if an 
investigation shows any wrongdoing by the police, it will be dealt 
with seriously. 
 
Concerns Over Catholic Church Protests 
-------------------------------------- 
 
8. (SBU) The DCM said we also remain concerned regarding the 
government's response to ongoing Catholic Church land protests, 
particularly the government action at the Nha Chung property and the 
growing number of arrests of individuals who have participated in 
peaceful prayer vigils at Thai Ha parish.  We have urged the Hanoi 
People's Committee to exercise restraint and to engage in a dialogue 
directly with Catholic leaders and believers in order to seek a 
mutually agreeable resolution to property disputes, the DCM said. 
Lam responded that MPS also wants to see a peaceful resolution of 
this issue.  DCM noted the constructive role Vice Minister Huong has 
played in defusing past disputes, and urged similar action to 
address the current standoff. 
 
Pushing on Pending Approval for DATT-Designate 
--------------------------------------------- - 
 
9. (SBU) The DCM raised the long-pending visa for DATT-designate 
Patrick Reardon, noting the Vietnamese embassy in Washington had 
told us the Ministry of Defense has accepted his accreditation and 
that the issue is now being reviewed by other ministries in the GVN. 
 Lam responded that there may be "technical problems" with the 
accreditation and promised to look into it. 
 
MICHALAK