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UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 HANOI 000516 
 
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TAGS: PHUM ECON PGOV KCOR KPAO SOCI PREL VM
 
SUBJECT: STILL LUCID AT 97: GENERAL VO NGUYEN GIAP TALKS EDUCATION 
WITH THE AMBASSADOR 
 
Ref: 07 HANOI 1705 
 
HANOI 00000516  001.2 OF 002 
 
 
Summary 
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¶1. (SBU) On April 25, the Ambassador and General Vo Nguyen Giap 
discussed efforts to increase educational exchanges between the 
United States and Vietnam.  After imploring the Ambassador to work 
to bring the overall relationship to an even higher level, Giap 
echoed the Ambassador's desire to see more Vietnamese study in the 
United States.  Giap also pleaded for the Ambassador's help in 
getting a U.S. university to open a branch in Vietnam.  While the 
General repeated himself a few times during the 40 minute 
conversation, he left no doubt he is a fan of U.S. educational 
institutions.  Giap is the hero of Vietnam's 1954 victory over the 
French at Dien Bien Phu and an icon in Vietnam who has remained 
somewhat politically active despite his 97 years of age.  End 
Summary. 
 
Context 
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¶2. (SBU) On April 25, the Ambassador met Vietnamese national hero 
and Ho Chi Minh's chief military strategist, General Vo Nguyen Giap, 
at the General's Hanoi home.  Due to his age and frail health, Giap 
receives visitors only infrequently.  In seeking this meeting with 
the General, our note underscored the Ambassador's desire to discuss 
bilateral educational exchanges.  Giap has been outspoken about the 
need for reform of Vietnam's educational system, most recently last 
year issuing a public letter calling for systemic reform (Reftel). 
 
¶3. (SBU) When the Ambassador and Poloffs arrived, Giap, his wife and 
son, and a few Party officials were waiting in a living room of the 
General's home.  Giap, who did not get up from his seat, was dressed 
in military uniform.  No press representatives were present.  On the 
table in front of where the Ambassador and the General sat was a 
tape player that recorded the conversation -- perhaps indicating 
Party officials still feel compelled, despite Giap's advanced age, 
to keep tabs on what the General tells his foreign interlocutors. 
(Note: After sidelining Giap, then removing him from the Politburo 
in 1982, reportedly for his opposition to the invasion of Cambodia, 
Party rivals continued to monitor the General's activities and 
conversations.  End Note.) 
 
We Are Now Friends 
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¶4. (SBU) The General began by noting that the United States and 
Vietnam are enjoying peaceful relations, with Vietnam now hosting a 
fourth post-war American ambassador.  Giap relayed that he met with 
most of the Ambassador's predecessors, who "demonstrated goodwill" 
towards Vietnam.  Giap implored the Ambassador to bring the overall 
relationship to an even higher level.  He said the GVN has achieved 
a lot of late and is "trying hard" in all areas.  The Ambassador 
responded that he shares the General's desire for better relations 
and pointed out that he is committed to doubling the number of 
Vietnamese students who study in the United States. 
 
Zeroing In On Education 
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¶5. (SBU) The GVN is focused on improving its educational and 
scientific capabilities so the country can join the ranks of the 
developed countries, Giap said.  Hanoi has progressed in the 
education area, but much needs to be done, he added.  The increase 
in the number of Vietnamese exports heading to the United States is 
just an "initial development" in the relationship and economic ties 
are bound to grow, he offered.  Giap said the most important thing 
-- pointing his finger in the air for emphasis -- is the "human 
element."  The Communist Party has made improving Vietnam's 
educational system its number one priority, he stated. 
 
¶6. (SBU) The United States and Vietnam could talk a lot, but "deeds 
are more important than words," the General continued.  He asked 
that the Ambassador pay special attention to education because what 
has been done so far to get Vietnamese students to study in America 
"has not been sufficient."  Although a large number of Vietnamese 
students are enrolled at U.S. educational institutions, this is just 
a start, he added.  He averred that a U.S. university should 
establish itself in Vietnam. Perhaps it could be a joint 
U.S.-Vietnamese university, he said. 
 
¶7. (SBU) The Ambassador responded that we have heard that Prime 
Minister Nguyen Tan Dung also wants a U.S. university to set up in 
Vietnam.  "You must have talked to him about this," the Ambassador 
said, which elicited laughter.  The General replied that, from time 
to time, he does talk to the PM about education issues in Vietnam. 
Giap added that, on many occasions, he has made public his points on 
science and education. 
 
HANOI 00000516  002.2 OF 002 
 
 
 
Comment: Approaching 100 But Still Lucid 
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¶8. (SBU) Giap repeated himself a few times during the 40 minute 
meeting, but spoke with clarity about the importance he attaches to 
education.  With a doctorate in economics and as a former high 
school teacher whose daughter and grandchildren have studied at 
American universities, the General made clear that he sees U.S. 
educational institutions as important to Vietnam's future. 
 
MICHALAK