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Viewing cable 08ATHENS464, GREECE/MACEDONIA: KARAMANLIS AND BAKOYANNIS

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08ATHENS464 2008-03-27 14:22 2011-08-26 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Athens
VZCZCXRO6251
PP RUEHAG RUEHAST RUEHDA RUEHDF RUEHFL RUEHIK RUEHKW RUEHLA RUEHLN
RUEHLZ RUEHPOD RUEHROV RUEHSR RUEHVK RUEHYG
DE RUEHTH #0464/01 0871422
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
P 271422Z MAR 08
FM AMEMBASSY ATHENS
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 1548
INFO RUEHZL/EUROPEAN POLITICAL COLLECTIVE
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 ATHENS 000464 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PGOV PREL NATO MK GR
SUBJECT: GREECE/MACEDONIA:  KARAMANLIS AND BAKOYANNIS 
NEGATIVE IN PUBLIC ON LATEST NIMETZ PROPOSAL 
 
REF:  ATHENS 452 
 
SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED -- PROTECT ACCORDINGLY 
 
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SUMMARY 
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1.  (U) Following the March 25 meetings hosted by UN Envoy 
Nimetz in New York on the Macedonia name issue, the Greek 
press trumpeted that the proposed international name was 
"Republic of Macedonia (Skopje)."  Almost immediately, 
Greek officials publicly laid out concerns with the 
proposal, both the name itself and the scope of use, and 
reiterated Greece's intent to block a NATO invitation to 
Macedonia absent a mutually agreed solution.  The Foreign 
Ministry posted a statement March 26 noting "distance" from 
a mutually agreed solution.  FM Bakoyannis later publicly 
termed the proposal "far from our objectives."  PM 
Karamanlis told the press that the proposal is 
insufficient.  Although both Bakoyannis and Karamanlis 
reiterated these positions in Parliament today, both also 
emphasized that Greece continues to seek a negotiated 
solution and called for the Nimetz-led negotiations to 
continue.  End Summary. 
 
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Karamanlis Addresses Parliamentary Caucus 
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2.  (U) In a March 27 address to the ruling New Democracy 
Party's parliamentary caucus, now being widely repeated on 
Greek television and radio, PM Karamanlis suggested that 
Greece, in approaching the 17-year old "name problem," has 
taken some "brave and honest decisions" which, however, 
remained without real effect given the "intransigence" 
displayed by the other side. The Greek PM underlined that 
"we are still far from a mutually acceptable solution" and 
called for the continuation of the UN-sponsored talks ("a 
final resolution with the seal of the United Nations"). 
There can be no progress or "allied relations," Karamanlis 
added, when "logic that is not appropriate for a European 
country" dominates the negotiations. Greece won't accept "a 
pseudo-name as a solution" -- and without a solution to the 
name problem, the Greek PM concluded, "there can be no 
invitation (to Macedonia to join) NATO." 
 
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Bakoyannis Negative on Nimetz proposal 
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3.  (U) FM Dora Bakoyannis also expressed concerns with the 
most recent Nimetz proposal during her March 27 speech 
before the parliamentary caucus. Bakoyannis indicated that 
the proposal "is too far from a mutually acceptable 
solution" and, therefore, Greece will continue its efforts 
under UN auspices to find "a coherent, operational, applied 
solution" to the name issue.  Bakoyannis said that Athens 
had already provided Nimetz with detailed points where 
Greece seeks clarification.  Greece as the oldest member of 
NATO and the EU in the Balkans and the country with the 
strongest economy in the region, is not interested in "a 
solution for a solution's sake," feels "no angst at this 
particular time," and "needs no fig leaves" in the process 
of negotiations, but, rather, wants to focus on looking "to 
resolve the issue for good." In her speech at Parliament, 
Bakoyannis repeated what she had already told reporters on 
March 26: "(The Nimetz proposal) is a proposal far from 
GreeceQs objectives.... The Greek position is clear.  If 
there is no mutually acceptable solution on the name, 
Greece cannot consent to a relationship of alliance with 
Skopje." Greece, the FM concluded in her parliamentary 
caucus speech, has "spoken straight" in stating its 
positions and "nobody can doubt that." 
 
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Government spokesmen 
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4.  (U) On March 26, as news began to break of the most 
recent Nimetz proposal, spokesman George Koumoutsakos said 
in an MFA statement: "Mr. Nimetz has submitted another 
proposal. The proposal is being assessed. The initial 
conclusion is that we are far from a mutually acceptable 
solution. The effort is continuing." During a press 
briefing, Deputy GoG spokesman Evangelos Antonaros refused 
comment on the Nimetz proposal citing ongoing negotiations. 
Greece is at the table "in a constructive spirit and 
positive attitude," Antonaros said, adding that as long as 
talks continue, he will be refraining from any detailed 
 
ATHENS 00000464  002 OF 002 
 
 
comments pertaining to the name issue in the interest of 
Greek diplomacy's efforts.  While it does appear that the 
spokesmen are making some effort at message discipline 
recently, several media contacts tell us that some Greek 
officials, speaking on background, are using the word 
"rejection" explicitly to describe their reaction to the 
Nimetz proposal. 
 
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Comment 
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5.  (SBU) Amplifying these statements, the Greek media have 
portrayed, almost universally, the latest Nimetz proposal 
in neative terms.  Some have gone so far as to use terms 
like U.S. "blackmail" or a "trap" for Greece set by the 
U.S. to describe the course of current diplomacy.  This 
includes some major media outlets that had been airing 
supportive statements and commentary in the recent past. 
Meanwhile, polling data continue to indicate that a large 
majority of the Greek public is against a compromise 
solution on the name issue.  Adding to FM Bakoyannis' 
challenges, the opposition leaders have requested briefings 
from the Government on the name issue, which -- under the 
Greek political system -- she is obligated to provide.  We 
are hard pressed to find positive commentary on the most 
recent Nimetz proposal anywhere in the Greek public sphere. 
End Comment. 
 
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