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SUBJECT: CATHOLIC CHURCH CHALLENGES GVN OVER LAND DISPUTE 
 
 
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¶1. (SBU) Summary: A long simmering land dispute between Vietnam's 
Catholic Church and the GVN has heated up in recent weeks.  Church 
leaders and their followers gather daily to pray in front of the old 
Vatican Embassy in Hanoi, one of many church properties taken over 
by the government after 1954 when former colonial power France 
relinquished control.  While the Prime Minister's unannounced visit 
in December 2007 to the disputed site raised hope that the Church's 
long pending request for the property might be resolved, the 
official reaction from the Hanoi People's Committee in January 
called on the Church to cease the prayer vigils, calling them 
illegal.  Recent escalations, including a scuffle between police and 
parishioners over the weekend, reflect the Church's determination to 
continue the pressure on the GVN.  The Embassy has sent a diplomatic 
note expressing concern over the possibility of force being used 
against peaceful demonstrators and urging a dialogue to seek a 
mutually agreeable resolution to church property disputes.  End 
Summary. 
 
Background 
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¶2. (U) The 2.5 acre property sits next to the offices of the Hanoi 
Archbishop and St. Joseph's Cathedral.  The main building on the 
property, a French-style villa, was the residence of the Vatican 
envoy until he was deported in 1959.  The Church maintains that the 
land and the building were returned to the Church until 1962, when 
the GVN forcibly took over the land and the building.  The GVN 
disputes this, claiming that on 24 November 1961, Father Nguyen Tung 
Cuong, then the Financial Administrator and Property Manager of the 
Archdiocese, donated the property to the government. 
 
¶3. (U) The Archbishop's Office confirmed that each Hanoi Archbishop 
has requested the return of the property, but the Church has never 
received a response.  Press reports quoted Duong Ngoc Tan, head of 
the Catholics Department under the Government Committee for 
Religious Affairs (CRA), as saying that the government will consider 
any housing or land demand in accordance with the law.  He cited the 
Land Law, which stipulates that the State does not accept any claim 
for land given to other users during the implementation of land 
policies of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (1945-1975), the 
Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South 
Vietnam (1969-1976) and the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. 
 
¶4. (U) Per Decision 23 issued by the 11th National Assembly on Nov. 
26, 2003, the property was put under the management and use of the 
Hoan Kiem People's Committee (a local level authority under the 
Hanoi People's Committee) and it is under State possession.  The 
Hanoi People's Committee stated that the property has been 
continuously managed and used by the Hoan Kiem District Sport Center 
and the Hoan Kiem District Cultural House for 40 years and that the 
community still requires these services for local cultural and 
sports activities. 
 
¶5. (U) In 2005, the Vietnamese Episcopal Council agreed to open an 
office in Hanoi.  The Church, short on adequate facilities, began 
raising this issue with the GVN regularly, culminating in an open 
letter in December 2007 from Archbishop Ngo Quang Kiet and regular 
candlelight prayer vigils outside the property. 
 
Recent Events 
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¶6. (U) In his open letter of December 15, 2007, Archbishop Kiet 
called on Catholic parishioners to pray for the GVN to return the 
property to the Church.  The Archbishop criticized the central 
government and Hanoi authorities for not paying due attention and 
respect to the Church's legitimate need for land. 
 
¶7. (U) On December 18, 2007, at the end of a Christmas performance, 
Catholic parishioners attending the performance formed a parade 
heading to the site of the former Vatican Embassy building.  For 
just under an hour, hundreds stood outside in prayer.  Candles were 
lit, and a statue of the Virgin Mary was brought onto the property 
and erected in front of the building.  Parishioners conducted 
similar prayer vigils over the following weeks and parishioners from 
different parishes attended evening services at the Cathedral, and 
joined the vigils afterward. 
 
¶8. (U) On December 30, 2007, Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung made an 
unannounced visit to the offices of the Archbishop, had a private 
meeting with him, and then walked to the site of the disputed 
property.  While GVN-controlled newspapers and media did not report 
the visit, Viet Catholic News Agency, run by overseas Vietnamese, 
posted pictures on their website of PM Dung in conversation with the 
Archbishop, while looking at the former Vatican building over the 
fence.  Other pictures showed parishioners signing a book calling 
for the State to return the property to the Church.  While the 
 
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Archbishop's Office stated that the content of the discussions 
between the Prime Minister and the Archbishop were regarding a 
private matter, press reports indicate the PM promised to look into 
the matter of the disputed land. 
 
¶9. (U) In a rare press interview shortly after PM Dung's visit, 
Nguyen The Doanh, Chairman of the Government Committee on Religious 
Affairs, said the Church technically must not ask the State to 
"return" the piece of property.  He hinted that a different wording 
should have been used, and that the State is willing to consider the 
Church's request for land to use for religious activities according 
to the law. 
 
¶10. (SBU) Catholic insiders claim the Church has all of the records 
proving the land belongs to the Church, but the GVN has not asked 
for the documents.  Father Le Trong Cung, Chief of Chancery of Hanoi 
Archbishop's Office, told Poloff that the GVN knows the land belongs 
to the Church, but can't just give it back as the GVN would lose 
respect.  The GVN has asked the Church to apply for the land, but 
the Church does not feel it should have to apply for something that 
already belongs to it.  While Fr. Cung was hopeful for a resolution 
in the Church's favor, he did not express any optimism that it would 
come any time soon. 
 
¶11. (U) On January 14, the Hanoi People's Committee issued an 
official letter calling for Archbishop Kiet and the parishioners 
gathered for prayer vigils to cease all illegal activities, stop all 
violations of the laws and regulations for religious practice and 
remove the Virgin Mary statue from the property.  The January 14 
statement accused the Archbishop of "using freedom of religion to 
provoke protests against the government" and thus "damaging 
relations between Vietnam and the Vatican". (Note:  The GVN and the 
Vatican established a Joint Working Group in late 2007 to explore 
conditions for the establishment of official relations. End note.) 
The Archbishop's Office responded in the press, blaming the Hanoi 
authorities for its unfair treatment, and reaffirming the right of 
Catholic parishioners to gather for prayer vigils. 
 
¶12. (SBU) On Friday, January 25, following the morning anniversary 
Mass commemorating the 90th birthday, 60 years as a priest, and 45 
years as Bishop of Cardinal Pham Dinh Tung, between 1,500 and 2,000 
parishioners and approximately 100 priests gathered at the site to 
pray.  Poloff observed parishioners climbing over the gate at the 
site of the former Vatican embassy building and tearing down signs 
put on the building by city authorities.  Reports indicate that a 
woman was kicked and slapped by security officers after the she 
climbed over the gate into the courtyard to light candles and lay 
flowers at the statue of the Virgin Mary.  A male parishioner, 
well-known democracy activist Le Quoc Quan attempted to come to her 
aid, but was also beaten and dragged away with blood pouring from 
his ear.  The chief priest of Ham Long parish church, also chief 
priest in charge of Hanoi city portion of the archdiocese, then 
shouted through a portable loudspeaker, calling on the police to 
release the woman.  The angry crowd of parishioners then broke 
through the gate in an attempt to prevent further actions by the 
security officers. 
 
¶13. (U) On Saturday, January 26, the Hanoi People's Committee sent a 
second official letter, stating that the Archbishop's Office has 
allowed the situation to deteriorate, resulting in parishioners and 
clergy assaulting security officers, damaging government property, 
erecting tents on government property, and disrupting public 
traffic.  The letter issued an ultimatum, calling for the Church to 
remove the Virgin Mary statue and all banners, tents, and 
parishioners by 5 pm, Sunday, January 27.  POL staff visited the 
site at 4:45 pm on Sunday, January 27, and saw crowds of people 
singing and praying, as well as a number of onlookers waiting to see 
what might happen.  By 5:40 pm, the crowd had grown, but no 
government action was taken. 
 
¶14. (SBU) On January 28, the embassy sent a diplomatic note to the 
MFA and the Hanoi People's Committee asking for clarification of 
reports that Vietnamese officials have called the current 
demonstrations illegal.  We noted that the threat or use of force 
against peaceful demonstrators would be of grave concern, and called 
for the Hanoi People's Committee to engage in a dialogue with church 
leaders to reach a mutually agreeable resolution regarding Church 
properties confiscated over the years. 
 
Comment 
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¶15. (SBU) This long simmering land dispute is one of many lingering 
land issues left over from the communist takeover in the 1950's, 
many involving the Catholic Church.  With six million faithful 
representing about seven percent of the population, the Catholic 
community in Vietnam is significant.  Issues of religious freedom 
 
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remain in Vietnam, but this particular dispute is less about 
ideology than it is about valuable land.  The property in question 
is in the center of the city, close to tourist sites and businesses, 
and would be extremely valuable to developers in Hanoi's booming 
real estate market. 
 
¶16. (SBU) While the incident on January 25 and the letters from the 
Hanoi People's Committee are unsettling, the muted response from the 
GVN is remarkable.  The fact that close to 2000 people were able to 
gather and call for a change in government policy related to the 
Catholic Church without significant police action or GVN reprisal in 
part reflects a sufficient feeling of comfort on both sides that the 
Church can air its grievances publicly and the state feels it can 
tolerate them.  The GVN also recognizes that its improved position 
internationally with respect to religious freedom has been hard won 
and is still on shaky ground.  Contacts tell us that the Vatican is 
watching events closely, particularly with regard to the ultimatum 
issued by the Hanoi People's Committee.  With international 
observers watching closely and the Catholic Church determined to 
continue the prayer vigils, the ball is now in the GVN's court.  End 
comment.