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10CDGENEVA17 2010-02-08 17:58 2011-08-30 01:44 SECRET US Mission CD Geneva
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SIPDIS 
DEPT FOR T, VCI AND EUR/PRA 
DOE FOR NNSA/NA-24 
CIA FOR WINPAC 
JSCS FOR J5/DDGSA 
SECDEF FOR OSD(P)/STRATCAP 
NAVY FOR CNO-N5JA AND DIRSSP 
AIRFORCE FOR HQ USAF/ASX AND ASXP 
DTRA FOR OP-OS OP-OSA AND DIRECTOR 
NSC FOR LOOK 
DIA FOR LEA 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2020/02/08 
TAGS: PARM KACT MARR PREL RS US
SUBJECT: START FOLLOW-ON NEGOTIATIONS, GENEVA (SFO-GVA-VII): B-1B and 
SSGN Agreed Statements Meeting, December 10, 2009 
 
CLASSIFIED BY: Rose A. Gottemoeller, Assistant Secretary, Department 
of State, VCI; REASON: 1.4(B), (D) 
 
1.  (U) This is SFO-GVA-VII-123. 
 
 
 
2.  (U) Meeting Date:  December 10, 2009 
 
                Time:  3:00 P.M. - 4:00 P.M. 
 
               Place:  United States Mission, Geneva 
 
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SUMMARY 
 
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3.  (S) Dr. Warner and Col Ilin met to discuss Russian responses to 
U.S.-proposed Agreed Statements on SSGNs and B-1B heavy bombers. 
The Russian side agreed in principle to both statements but offered 
some amendments and additional measures.  For SSGNs, the additional 
measures were that each submarine would remain under the provisions 
of the treaty, cease to be subject to the treaty's aggregate 
limits, and would be subject to two inspections, after the initial 
one-time exhibition, during the life of the treaty.  For the B-1Bs, 
the Russian side proposed that each B-1B conversion use the 
procedures codified in Part III of the Protocol to the START 
follow-on treaty in lieu of START procedures, both Ellsworth and 
Dyess Air Force Bases remain subject to the provisions of the 
treaty as formerly declared facilities, and the sample size for the 
annual exhibition would be three B-1Bs.  End summary. 
 
 
 
4.  (U) SUBJECT SUMMARY:  SSGN Proposals; and B-1B Proposals. 
 
 
 
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SSGN PROPOSALS 
 
 
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5.  (S) Ilin stated that the Russian side had agreed in principle 
to the SSGN Agreed Statement and accepted the U.S. text with 
additional proposals.  Ilin proposed to label the initial one-time 
"exhibition" as a "demonstration" in which the Party would 
demonstrate to inspectors that the SSGN is not capable of launching 
SLBMs.  Ilin further rationalized that since the demonstration 
would be within the purview of the START Follow-on treaty it would 
not be right that the SSGNs be completely removed from the treaty 
as the Untied States proposed.  Instead, he stated the SSGNs should 
not be accountable under the aggregate limits but remain subject to 
the broader provisions of the treaty. 
 
 
 
6.  (S) As part of the annual exhibitions, after the initial 
 
one-time demonstration, Ilin proposed several additional measures. 
He proposed to conduct the SSGN inspection during a Type 1 
inspection.  If an SSGN is captured by the pre-inspection movement 
restrictions, then inspectors shall have the right to also conduct 
an inspection of the SSGN as well.  Warner clarified that the SSGN 
inspection would be in lieu of the "empty launcher" allocation for 
the Type 1 inspection.  Ilin agreed and asserted that instead of 
only inspecting one SSGN launcher as proposed by the United States, 
inspectors shall have the right to inspect three SSGN launchers. 
 
 
 
7.  (S) Warner offered that since the SSGNs are not on the bases 
very often, the Russian Federation may never get a chance during a 
Type 1 inspection to conduct an inspection of an SSGN.  Ilin 
replied that perhaps both approaches could be used; a combination 
of the U.S. exhibition and the Russian Type 1 inspection 
opportunity.  Ilin further avowed that the inspections shall be a 
maximum of two for each SSGN during the life of the treaty as 
opposed to the U.S.-proposed one exhibition.  Warner mentioned that 
the United States inadvertently left off the time limit of when the 
initial one-time exhibition would be completed; he said the United 
States proposed to complete the initial exhibitions for all four 
SSGNs no later than 3 years after entry-into-force of the treaty. 
Finally, Ilin stated that the same procedures agreed to in the 
Agreed Statement would apply to future exhibitions for newly 
converted SSBNs. 
 
 
 
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B-1B PROPOSALS 
 
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8.  (S) Ilin relayed that the Russian side agreed in principle to 
the B-1B Agreed Statement.  However, he said that the procedures to 
convert B-1Bs to a heavy bomber equipped for non-nuclear armaments 
should be the new procedures developed in the Part of the Protocol 
on Conversion or Elimination and not the old START procedures. 
Warner remarked that 43 of the 66 B-1Bs planned for conversion have 
completed the conversion process and the other 23 should be 
completed by the Fall of 2010. 
 
 
 
9.  (S) Ilin proposed a series of measures once the B-1Bs have all 
been converted.  He stated that both Ellsworth and Dyess Air Force 
Bases should become "formerly declared facilities."  Warner 
corrected that the appropriate term would be "eliminated 
facilities."  Ilin asserted that the purpose of keeping the 
facilities accountable is to make them inspectable under Type 2 
inspections to confirm there are no heavy bombers equipped for 
nuclear armaments present.  Furthermore, he said that these 
formerly declared facility inspections would be conducted within 
the Type 2 quotas to ensure the facilities are not being used for 
purposes inconsistent with the treaty. 
 
 
 
10.  (S) Warner asked about the number of B-1Bs the Russian side 
 
proposed be available for inspection and to inspect during the 
annual exhibition.  Ilin said that the total number of B-1Bs 
present for the exhibition should be similar to START which was 70 
percent, and from those the inspectors will select three to 
inspect.  Additionally, Ilin proposed during the conduct of a Type 
1 inspection, if a visiting B-1B should be present, that the B-1B 
shall be available for inspection.  Finally, should new types of 
heavy bombers be converted to a non-nuclear configuration, such 
heavy bombers shall be covered by the procedures contained in the 
Agreed Statement. 
 
 
 
11.  (S) Documents exchanged:  None. 
 
 
 
12.  (U) Participants: 
 
 
 
UNITED STATES 
 
 
 
Dr. Warner 
 
Mr. Buttrick 
 
Lt Col Comeau (RO) 
 
Mr. Dean 
 
Ms. Gross (Int) 
 
 
 
RUSSIA: 
 
 
 
Col Ilin 
 
Gen Orlov 
 
Gen Poznikhir 
 
Col Zaitsev 
 
Ms. Evarovskaya (Int) 
 
 
 
13.  (U) Gottemoeller sends. 
LARSON