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Viewing cable 09PARISFR370, FEBRUARY 2009 FUTURE OF WORLD HERITAGE EXPERTS MEETING

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09PARISFR370 2009-03-13 09:41 2011-08-30 01:44 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Mission UNESCO
UNCLASSIFIED   UNESCOPARI   03130370 
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FM UNESCO PARIS FR
TO SECSTATE WASHDC
UNCLAS PARIS FR 000370 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
 
STATE PASS TO DEPT OF INTERIOR NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, ATTN: STEVE 
MORRIS AND JONATHAN PUTNAM 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PREL UNESCO
SUBJECT: FEBRUARY 2009 FUTURE OF WORLD HERITAGE EXPERTS MEETING 
 
1. (SBU) Summary and comment:  A disconnect between theory and 
reality marked the February 2009 experts meeting on the World 
Heritage Convention's future.  With the WH List continuing to grow 
at a rapid rate, resources static, and the conservation of WH sites, 
d the Convention's prime purpose, almost treated as an afterthought 
by some, there was a lack of focus that could threaten the future of 
the Convention.  The Spanish chairperson's attempt to identify and 
prioritize the problems was less than stellar, and suggests that she 
will be hard-pressed to propose recommendations and drive the WH 
Committee to reach any clear solutions during its meeting in Seville 
this June.  End Summary and comment. 
 
2. (U) Three meetings were held at UNESCO headquarters (24-27 
February) in an attempt to prepare the ground for the upcoming World 
Heritage (WH) Committee meeting in Seville, June 22-30, 2009. 
Half-day meetings were held regarding the use of the WH Emblem, and 
another on the WH budget. (See septels).  The main meeting of the 
week was a two and a half-day gathering on the Future of the WH 
Convention, bringing together WH experts from many of the States 
Parties.  The U.S. was represented by Steve Morris and Jonathan 
Putnam from the National Park Service at the Department of the 
Interior.  David Ostroff accompanied them from the U.S. Mission 
staff. 
 
The Future of World Heritage 
 
3. (U) The key meeting of the week focused on the future of the WH 
Convention, and was designed to identify and prioritize issues to 
set the stage for further debate and decisions in Seville.  WH 
Center Director Bandarin opened the discussions by noting that 44 
countries out of the 186 signatories had submitted comments in 
response to the Secretariat's request for input.  It was not clear 
how many countries had experts present at the meeting, though it was 
well attended.  The comments served as the framework for an extended 
debate, with the experts present splitting into three separate 
discussion groups, each covering the same topic at the same time: 
A) Values, messages and image of the Convention; B) Conservation and 
Sustainable Development; and C) The World Heritage System. 
Rapporteurs from each discussion group gave a summary of the 
debates, which served as a launch pad for further discussion. 
Despite efforts to keep the discussions on theme, the experts felt 
no compunction to limit their comments, leaving the moderators 
perplexed and adding to the overall sense of "nothing is ever going 
to get decided" during the meeting.  No final declaration was 
proposed, but WH Committee Chair, Spanish Ambassador Maria San 
Segundo, announced that a summary would be prepared by the 
rapporteurs, Chairman, and Secretariat staff for presentation to the 
WH Committee in Seville. 
 
Spain launches Prehistory as a new WH Theme 
 
4. (U) Ambassador San Segundo took the opportunity to introduce 
plans for a new theme on "WH and Prehistory" that would run 
throughout the year of Spain's chairmanship, adding that Spain would 
be sponsoring four meetings on the subject in 2009:  One on 
prehistory in general; one on human evolution; one on rock art; and 
one regarding prehistoric WH sites.  San Segundo noted that the 
theme has strong links to Science, and would bolster the 
participation of Caribbean, African, and the Pacific States Parties, 
as they all have strong links to prehistory in relation to WH sites. 
 She also took the opportunity to remind participants about the 
creation of new regional centers for WH that will be opened in the 
Nordic countries, China and Bahrain, all of which will center on 
capacity building and conservation. 
 
Back to Basics or the Risk of Implosion 
 
5. (U) Former Chair of the WH Committee (for the 2008 meetings in 
Quebec), Dr. Christina Cameron, launched the debate on the Future of 
the WH Convention with a short speech, reminding the States Parties 
that the original signers of the Convention would never have 
imagined the size and complexity we face today with a WH List of 878 
sites and growing.  She warned that the Convention risks imploding 
under the weight of its own success.  Cameron told the assembly that 
the credibility of the Convention is endangered by its search for 
"representivity."  She reminded the gathering that the original 
concept was to create a "select list" of the most outstanding sites 
in the world, not one that is geographically balanced.  She also 
warned against the List veering increasingly towards negativity 
(politicization) and nationalism.  (Comment:  Later in the meeting, 
comments on the growing politicization were much sharper, with 
several experts noting that what had been subtle lobbying in the 
past has now become harassment and unbearable pressure. End 
comment).  She noted that the Danger List is not being used as 
originally intended, and that it has become perceived as a "black 
mark", rather than as a rallying point to help countries having 
serious problems maintaining their sites. 
 
Shocking Time Management - 12 Minutes per Site 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
 
STATE PASS TO DEPT OF INTERIOR NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, ATTN: STEVE 
MORRIS AND JONATHAN PUTNAM 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PREL UNESCO
SUBJECT: FEBRUARY 2009 FUTURE OF WORLD HERITAGE EXPERTS MEETING 
 
 
6. (U) Cameron went on to complain that the time management problem 
the WH Committee faces each year is a disaster in the making. 
Noting that in Quebec, the Committee was obliged to make an average 
of five decisions per hour, Cameron said that given the years 
devoted to the preparation of each dossier, the twelve minutes given 
to examine each nomination was not credible, and not sustainable. 
(Comment:  Chairman San Segundo's inability to manage time during 
the three meetings was egregious, and guarantees that Seville will 
suffer the same or worse fate in terms of dealing with substantive 
decisions in unacceptably short blocks of time. End comment). 
 
Debates - New Ideas Surfacing 
 
7. (U) While much of the two and half day discussion on the future 
of the WH Convention was connected to recurring themes, including 
budget, the over-worked Secretariat, "representivity" and improved 
efficiency, other ideas surfaced that were worth noting, and will be 
interesting to follow should they gain traction in the coming 
months. 
 
Adding a Second WH Committee Meeting per Year 
 
8. (U) Several experts suggested that a second meeting of the WH 
Committee be held in Paris each year, providing a means to ease the 
pressure caused by the heavy agenda at the annual WH Committee 
meeting.  Different ideas were floated about how the work could be 
split up to improve time management and potentially slow the number 
of inscriptions.  They included restricting discussions on 
inscriptions to every second year, which would permit more time to 
focus on the problem of conservation during the year in which 
nominations are not considered.  Others suggested that inscriptions 
and management issues be separated out into two different meetings, 
as well.  (Note: see para 12 below: "Division of Work").  Chairman 
San Segundo is a strong advocate of holding a second meeting per 
year, but Secretariat personnel are concerned that organizing a 
second meeting per year will severely cut into their ability to do 
their "real work."  The question of the cost of a second meeting was 
not broached, but must be considered before any recommendations are 
made to the WH General Assembly. 
 
Inscriptions - A Finite or Infinite List? 
 
9. (U) Despite clear warnings from Christina Cameron and others 
about placing more strain on the system, some experts, with Kenya 
being particularly vocal, insisted that more sites need to be added 
to the List.  (Note: Bandarin has been quoted as saying that new 
inscriptions are the life-blood of the Convention). When some 
experts raised the idea of a moratorium or capping the List, others, 
notably from Africa and Brazil objected strenuously.  During the 
discussion, the idea of a moratorium seemed to be more of a straw 
man to be knocked down, rather than a serious proposal.   The U.S. 
strongly backed the idea that we need to concentrate more on 
conservation, and reiterated the option of self-imposed limits, 
noting the U.S. as an example of self-restraint in making 
nominations.  India, for example, suggested the solution is to 
increase resources to handle the increased volume.  As the question 
of adding to the List was raised, Brazil and others took the 
opportunity to again point out existing problems regarding 
geographic balance and proportionality being handled by former 
Japanese Ambassador Seichi Kondo's Working Group on procedures for 
election to the World Heritage Committee, which is due to report to 
the Seville meeting, as well.  Others expressed the idea that some 
countries were unable to nominate sites due to their lack of 
expertise, to which Brazil announced that it would assist States 
Parties, both financially and in terms of technical expertise, to 
present credible dossiers for nominations.  There was no consensus 
on the idea of capping the List, with many States Parties clearly 
supportive of continuing to add to it, providing what they see as 
greater "balance" to the List.  Brazil commented that we are not 
building a Convention for the "short-term", but rather we are 
constructing a List that could "go on for centuries," adding that 
"we cannot have a list that is based on the past." 
 
U.S. Help in Capacity Building? 
 
10. (U) In an effort to brainstorm on ways the U.S. might assist in 
capacity building, U.S. expert, Steve Morris, mentioned privately to 
other U.S. delegation members that his office is in the first phase 
of reflection on a possible initiative to assist States Parties that 
lack sufficient management expertise to run their own WH Sites. 
Morris is considering a "World Heritage Scholarship" program where 
visiting WH administrators or staff would be trained at U.S. 
National Park/WH Sites for periods up to 6 months. 
 
Cooperation Among UNESCO Conventions 
 
11. (U) One subject that came up frequently was the idea, promoted 
by both Chairman San Segundo and ADG Culture Riviere, that there 
 
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must be a greater level of cooperation among the seven "culture" 
Conventions under UNESCO's responsibility.  Norway, for example, 
lamented that the WH Convention "lives in splendid isolation", and 
urged a "holistic review" of the Conventions which will strengthen 
them all.  Another expert suggested that reducing "compartmentalism" 
between instruments would allow greater complementarity, e.g., 
between natural sites and biodiversity issues.  Others suggested 
that better coordination would avoid any duplication of effort among 
Conventions. 
 
Division of Work 
 
12. (U) Another issue that was raised by several experts regarded 
the division of labor between the WH Committee and the WH General 
Assembly.  While the workload of the WH Committee continues to 
increase, many complained that the WH General Assembly does nothing 
more than elect the WH Committee membership.  It was suggested that 
many issues that are clearly of a more substantive nature should be 
dealt with by the WH General Assembly, leaving the decisions of a 
more technical nature to the WH Committee.  Norway, in particular 
noted that the WH Committee has become "a political battleground, 
not the sober and professional body it should be."  The idea of 
reinstituting a WH Bureau to take on decision making was quickly 
shot down, as former WH Chair Vera Lacoeuilhe (Saint Lucia)reminded 
experts that it had been tried and failed.  Another point raised 
regarding division of labor was the current imbalance between the 
Secretariat and the Advisory Bodies, with a suggestion that the 
Advisory Bodies be given even more work, freeing up the Secretariat 
to better manage the Convention as a whole. 
 
Definition of Outstanding Universal Value (OUV) 
 
13. (U) There was renewed debate about not having clearly defined 
the concept of OUV in the WH Convention.  In the same vein as the 
Supreme Court Justice who, when asked to define pornography said, "I 
know it when I see it..." the simple and powerful concept of OUV is 
an evolving and dynamic process, mirroring shifts and changing 
values in time.  In the context of conservation, the definition of 
OUV is key to understanding why a particular property is worthy of 
our care and attention.  In the various debates regarding 
conservation, it was expressed that while OUV may be linked to 
ideas, ultimately OUV is linked to each property.  The U.S. expert 
described the "statement of OUV" as part of the contract between the 
State Party and the WH Committee about how the site will be 
maintained.  It was, therefore, suggested that a statement of OUV be 
assigned for every site, helping guide future decisions about 
conservation, providing a better understanding of what values drove 
the WH Committee, at a particular point in time, to inscribe the 
site on the List. 
 
Selling the WH Brand 
 
14. (U) A short, but interesting intervention during the meeting 
came from Mr. Tim Heberden from the Australian firm, Brand Finance, 
specializing in "brand economics".  His comments on the World 
Heritage "brand" were surprising, with Heberden saying that he 
doesn't understand why the clear partnership between the 
multi-billion dollar tourism industry and the WH Center aren't 
better exploited.  He said that he would give the World Heritage 
"brand name" recognition an indicative "BBB" (or average) rating, 
and believes that the "brand value" for World Heritage, if properly 
managed, could be in the neighborhood of $500 million. 
 
15. (U) Despite the mediocre rating given by Mr. Heberden, some 
experts held to their arguments that devaluation of the brand is not 
possible, no matter how many sites are ultimately put on the list. 
Brazil, saying "gold is gold, no matter how much you have", was 
notably out of synch with the branding expert on this point. 
 
Fly-Over Tourist Dollars 
 
16. (U) Another subject that came up frequently was the problem of 
tourists visiting WH Sites, paying for their trips in their home 
country, and leaving little or no "trickle-down" money in the 
country where the site is located.  Some solutions suggested special 
taxes earmarked for conservation of WH sites, compulsory surcharges, 
or voluntary contributions at the time of payment.  Several experts 
suggested that these taxes and surcharges be levied on tour 
operators, while others felt that individuals might be more 
charitable, given that the monies would be used to help improve 
conservation of WH Sites. 
 
WH Convention to Alleviate Poverty? 
 
17. (SBU) One subject that came up several times during the meeting 
was that the WH Convention somehow has a role to play in alleviating 
poverty in the developing world.  This was mentioned notably by a 
representative from the African WH Fund, who spoke of "squalor and 
poverty" in or near WH Sites in Africa.  Linking conservation, 
 
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tourism and sustainable development together provided some experts 
with a sturdy enough soap-box to climb up on and urge the gathering 
to look at ways for the WH Convention to benefit local communities. 
Kenya, referring to the U.S., accused us of "purist thinking" 
regarding the Convention, adding that conservation without people is 
wrong.  ICOMOS's president, Mr. Araoz, notably suggested that the WH 
Convention develop a "major role" in community building.  (Comment: 
Crossing the finely drawn lines between WH Committee issues and 
questions of national sovereignty could be very problematic if this 
highly political subject is not approached with caution.  End 
Comment. 
 
Far from Conclusions 
 
18. (U) WH Center Secretary Bandarin proposed that a global survey 
be undertaken to determine how the public sees the World Heritage 
Convention as it reaches its fortieth anniversary, and to help 
define what function it can have in the future.  On the subject of 
sustainable development, Bandarin said that the Secretariat will 
work on some ideas regarding "best practices" to recommend to the WH 
Committee.  ADG Riviere mentioned the idea of having a short list of 
"WH Centers of Excellence" which would provide clear examples of OUV 
and best practices for conservation.  She said that the WH Center 
should become, in this regard, a center for knowledge management. 
(Note: Brazil, in particular, commented on the fact that the 
Secretariat is increasingly taking on responsibilities beyond its 
mandate). 
 
19. (U) The other key point that surfaced during the meetings was 
the increased need to focus on the problems of conservation and 
capacity building, with several experts suggesting that we need to 
be more pro-active and less reactive on these points.  The U.S. 
clearly stated that the Convention is about conservation, and that 
we must be cautious about discussing development issues, adding that 
for many sites, (including natural sites), no development would be 
appropriate.  Riviere mentioned the idea of creating "autonomous" 
centers for WH training, (like Category II centers), to build on 
cooperation and partnership.  Brazil announced, without adding any 
details, that it plans a regional center in Rio for WH Management. 
Overall, most experts seemed to agree on the fact that any 
structural solutions to improving the workload problems will fall on 
the Secretariat, and will require greater resources, while 
acknowledging that the system, as it exists today, is under great 
stress. The U.S. made the point that the World Heritage Centre's 
role as a Secretariat seems to be taking a back seat to its 
technical assistance work and its efforts to convene expert meetings 
on various themes, activities that might be better carried out by 
the Advisory Bodies, if they were appropriately funded. 
 
20.  U.S. World Heritage Nominations 
 
In side conversations with staff from the World Heritage Centre, the 
U.S. representatives were informed that both of the two U.S. World 
Heritage nomination dossiers submitted in January 
2009(Papahanaumokuakea Marine National Monument and Mount Vernon) 
were certified by the Centre as being "complete," meaning that they 
will now be forwarded to the Advisory Bodies for evaluation.  They 
will be considered for inscription at the 2010 Committee session. 
 
21. (SBU)  Comment: While Chairman San Segundo announced her overall 
goal at the start of the meeting was to prioritize issues for 
consideration, it is clear that the gathering failed to even 
identify all of the problems facing the WH Convention at this 
crucial point in time.  How she will shape the discussions, with the 
help of the rapporteurs and facilitators, remains to be seen, but 
will surely not satisfy certain experts should their particular 
concerns not be highlighted. End Comment. ENGELKEN