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09PARTO22610 2009-02-26 19:16 2011-08-30 01:44 CONFIDENTIAL US Delegation, Secretary
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INFO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE
RUCNARF/ASEAN REGIONAL FORUM COLLECTIVE IMMEDIATE
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 05 PARTO 022610 
 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/19/2019 
TAGS: PREL PGOV OVIP CLINTON HILLARY KGHG ID
SUBJECT: (U) Secretary Clinton's February 18, 2009 
conversation with Indonesian Foreign Minister Wirajuda 
 
1. (U) Classified by: Paul Wohlers, Deputy Executive 
Secretary, S/ES, Department of State. Reason 1.4.(d). 
 
2. (U) Thursday, February 18, 2009; 4:15 p.m.; 
Jakarta, Indonesia. 
 
3. (U) Participants: 
 
U.S. 
The Secretary 
Ambassador Cameron R. Hume 
A/S Christopher R. Hill, EAP 
Lt. Gen. Paul J. Selva, Assistant to the Chairman of the 
Joint Chiefs of Staff 
Todd D. Stern, Special Envoy for Climate Change 
Ambassador Jeffrey A. Bader, NSC 
Huma Abedin, Deputy Chief of Staff 
Jacob J. Sullivan, Deputy Chief of Staff 
Robert Wood, Acting Spokesman 
Daniel E. Turnbull, Embassy Jakarta (notetaker) 
 
INDONESIA 
Foreign Minister Wirajuda 
Vice Minister Triyono Wibowo 
Ambassador Retno Marsudi 
Ambassador Sudjadnan 
Djauhari Oratmangun, Director General 
Andri Hadi, Director General 
Dienne H. Moeharia, Inspector General 
Dr. Dino Patti Djalal, Presidential Spokesman 
Artauli Tobing, Director General 
Bunyan Saptomo, Director 
Teuku Faizasyah, Spokesman 
Cicilia Rusdiharini, Deputy Director (notetaker) 
 
 
4. (C) SUMMARY. During a February 18 meeting, the 
Secretary and Indonesian FM Hassan Wirajuda agreed to 
pursue a "comprehensive partnership" that encompassed 
all aspects of the relationship. Recent steps in that 
direction included agreement on the return of the Peace 
Corps to Indonesia, renewal of the Fulbright agreement 
on educational exchanges, cooperation on Indonesia's 
Compact eligibility status under the Millennium 
Challenge Corporation, and U.S. readiness to present a 
draft Science and Technology agreement for negotiation. 
 
5. (C) SUMMARY cont'd: The Secretary praised 
Indonesia's progress on democracy and human rights and 
Indonesia's leadership in promoting these values in the 
region. She said the Obama Administration wanted to 
engage more actively with ASEAN. Wirajuda said the 
ASEAN Charter entailed a commitment to promote democracy 
and human rights that was binding on Burma. On Iran, he 
called for a broader dialogue including Arab and Muslim 
countries and member states of the Nuclear 
Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). The two also discussed 
cooperation on climate change and bilateral health 
cooperation. END SUMMARY. 
 
6. (C) In a brief private meeting before the main 
discussion, Wirajuda welcomed the Secretary and asked if 
there was any special message from Washington. The 
Secretary said President Obama had fond memories of his 
years in Indonesia whose diversity and culture had 
greatly impressed him. The United States hoped for a 
more comprehensive partnership built on the work already 
 
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done in such fields as counter-terrorism. There should 
be a broader engagement in education, the environment, 
and health care. The Secretary wanted to hear how 
Indonesia would structure work on such a relationship. 
Wirajuda said Indonesia wanted to build a comprehensive 
partnership. He said President Yudhoyono welcomed the 
Secretary's visit and looked forward to meeting her. 
 
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A DEMOCRATIC INDONESIA 
---------------------- 
 
7. (C) In the larger meeting, Wirajuda assured the 
Secretary that Indonesia stood ready to work with the 
United States on bilateral, regional, and global issues. 
Bilateral cooperation had been growing steadily and 
promised to become even stronger with the Obama 
Administration. Noting the presence of three women in 
his team at the meeting, Wirajuda said half of senior 
Indonesian officials would be women in 50 years. This 
was not the result of affirmative action but of open, 
non-discriminatory recruitment policies. Wirajuda said 
Indonesia had transformed in the past decade to a 
vibrant democracy that respected human rights and the 
rule of law. Some still had the mistaken impression 
that Indonesia had not changed from the past. The 
Indonesia-sponsored Bali Democracy Forum brought 
together democracies and aspiring democracies to share 
experiences. It was the first effort of its kind in 
Asia. 
 
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MODERATION AND DIVERSITY 
------------------------ 
 
8. (C) Wirajuda said Indonesia had partnered 
successfully with the United States to combat terrorism. 
At the same time, Indonesia professed a moderate form of 
Islam. Indonesia had proven that Islam, democracy, and 
modernity could coexist. Indonesia stood at a 
crossroads of civilizations and, like the United States, 
was a "melting pot" of ethnic groups and cultures that 
celebrated diversity. Indonesia was ready to play a 
role in bridging relations between the West and Islam. 
 
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THE ECONOMIC CRISIS 
------------------- 
 
9. (C) Economically, Wirajuda continued, Indonesia had 
recovered from the crisis of 1997-98, but now had been 
hit by the global economic crisis. The Indonesian 
economy had grown by six percent in recent years and was 
still projected to attain 4.5 percent growth in 2009, 
despite the global downturn. Still, Indonesian exports 
were down 38 percent from a year ago. In need of 
assistance in overcoming the global economic slowdown, 
Indonesia sought U.S. support for contingency financing 
through the World Bank-led effort in which the Asian 
Development Bank (ADB), Japan, and Australia were 
participating. (Note: The U.S. Treasury Department 
previously turned down an Indonesian request for U.S. 
participation in this effort as a bilateral donor.) 
Indonesia also sought access to a Federal Reserve 
currency swap line, even if in only half the amount that 
Singapore, Mexico, and Brazil had received. That would 
save Indonesia from having to borrow on the open market. 
 
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10. (C) Wirajuda said Indonesia's widespread poverty 
was one of the biggest challenges to making democracy 
work. Prosperity had to go hand in hand with democracy 
in order for democracy to survive in the long run. 
 
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COMPREHENSIVE PARTNERSHIP 
------------------------- 
 
12. (C) Wirajuda welcomed the new administration's 
commitment to enhance cooperation. Indonesia wanted to 
deepen cooperation in all major aspects of the 
relationship: environmental protection, climate change, 
trade and investment, democracy, education, health, 
regional security, counterterrorism, and people-to- 
people contacts. This would be a "comprehensive 
partnership" in which Indonesia and the United States 
both would play equal roles. This partnership could be 
announced in a joint statement of both countries' 
leaders. 
 
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SECRETARY PRAISES INDONESIAN LEADERSHIP 
--------------------------------------- 
 
13. (C) The Secretary thanked Wirajuda for his 
"comprehensive overview." She conveyed warm personal 
greetings from President Obama who, she said, had fond 
memories of his early years in Indonesia, where he had 
learned the importance of harmonious relations among 
religions and diverse ethnic groups. The Secretary 
applauded Indonesia's example of highly qualified women 
in government. The United States wanted to broaden and 
deepen its cooperation with Indonesia through a 
"comprehensive partnership" covering all aspects of the 
relationship. She praised the Bali Democracy Forum and 
Indonesia's role in bringing together countries from 
around the region to promote this fundamental shared 
value. This initiative had signaled to the rest of the 
world Indonesia's leadership. She accepted Wirajuda's 
point that democracy and prosperity needed to develop in 
parallel. 
 
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AGREEMENTS SHOW COOPERATION 
--------------------------- 
 
14. (C) The Secretary noted that a number of important 
agreements had been concluded in the run-up to her 
visit. These were a concrete demonstration of growing 
cooperation: 
 
- The Peace Corps would return to Indonesia; 
- The AMINEF Agreement for Fulbright educational 
exchanges had been renewed; 
- Indonesia had achieved Compact eligibility status 
under the Millennium Challenge Corporation, and a team 
would arrive this spring to begin work on a Compact; and 
- The United States was ready to present a draft 
proposal for a Science and Technology Agreement. 
 
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INDONESIAN EFFORTS ON BURMA 
--------------------------- 
 
15. (C) The Secretary said the United States wanted to 
 
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consult with Indonesia in addressing other challenges, 
such as Burma. It was important to improve the lives of 
the Burmese people and to create room for reforms. 
Burma sanctions had not worked, and the United States 
wanted to try other approaches. Wirajuda noted that in 
2002 Indonesia had begun to press for ASEAN dialogue on 
political issues, such as Myanmar. But engagement had 
not worked either. Regional economic integration had 
limited value if not accompanied by progress on human 
rights and democracy. This increasing engagement on 
political issues had become enshrined in the ASEAN 
Charter. 
 
16. (C) Wirajuda said Myanmar was difficult. The 
ruling regime had rejected the constructive efforts of 
regional institutions. The Charter, however, now 
entailed a legal commitment to promote democracy and 
human rights. Myanmar would hold multiparty elections 
next year. However, issues of national sovereignty and 
political stability also had to be considered. ASEAN 
had continued to discuss Myanmar in its meetings, and 
Indonesia was actively trying to engage neighboring 
countries, including China and India, in dialogue with 
the regime. 
 
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CLIMATE CHANGE 
-------------- 
 
17. (C) The Secretary said global climate change was 
another challenge that offered opportunities for 
cooperation, particularly in reforestation. Wirajuda 
noted that Indonesia had organized the Bali Conference 
on climate change in late 2007, which had produced a 
"roadmap" for a process to replace the Kyoto Protocol. 
This process would continue in Copenhagen. Indonesia 
hoped the United States would sponsor a high-level 
meeting in this process, such as it had hosted on the 
margins of the United Nations General Assembly in 2007. 
Indonesia appreciated U.S. support on reforestation and 
forest protection. Indonesia was cooperating with other 
countries in the region and was planning to organize a 
meeting of 34 rain-forest countries, Wirajuda added. 
 
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EAST-ASIAN INTEGRATION 
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18. (C) Wirajuda noted the ASEAN Charter had identified 
three main pillars for integration: political-security, 
economic, and social-cultural. Only six years remained 
to achieve the target of full integration by 2015. This 
integration would put ASEAN in "the driver's seat" for 
broader East Asian integration. A web of agreements had 
led to creation of the East Asian Summit (EAS), and the 
region would soon begin talking about an East Asian 
Community. This could form the building blocks for a 
free-trade area. In view of China's growing power, 
Indonesia had insisted on drawing India, Australia, and 
New Zealand into the EAS and continued to work closely 
with other countries in the region. Wirajuda welcomed 
U.S. thinking on these developments. 
 
19. (C) The Secretary hoped the expanded ASEAN outreach 
would include other Asia-Pacific countries in its free- 
trade area and that political cooperation would advance 
 
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democracy. She said the Obama Administration had a 
positive view of these developments and wanted to 
develop stronger cooperation with the region. She 
intended to make proposals along these lines at her 
upcoming meeting at the ASEAN Secretariat. The United 
States wanted to be an effective partner with ASEAN in 
realizing ASEAN's strategic vision and would work 
closely with Indonesia. 
 
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MIDDLE EAST AND IRAN 
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20. (C) The Secretary noted that one of the first steps 
of the Obama Administration was to appoint a Special 
Envoy for the Middle East. The United States was re- 
engaging with the Middle East and wanted to advance the 
peace process. Washington had supported humanitarian 
aid for Gaza and was committed to the two-state 
solution. The Secretary said Washington sought 
Indonesia's help in convincing Iran to abandon its 
pursuit of nuclear weapons. Other states in the region 
were deeply concerned about Iran's program. Indonesia 
had a position of leadership in this area and 
considerable influence with Iran, the Secretary pointed 
out. 
 
21. (C) Wirajuda noted that Indonesia had participated 
in the Annapolis Conference and the Paris Conference and 
supported a two-state solution. Indonesia had provided 
practical assistance through the Asia-Africa Conference 
on Palestine. Although more sympathetic toward Fatah 
politically, Indonesia promoted dialogue and 
reconciliation between Fatah and Hamas in the interests 
of the Palestinian people. 
 
22. (C) On Iran, Wirajuda said it was odd that the 
various international efforts included no representative 
of the Arab League or the Islamic world. He suggested 
the dialogue with Iran should include some state parties 
of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). Indonesia 
was "a critical friend" of Iran, Wirajuda said, 
conveying at senior levels Indonesia's opposition to any 
development of nuclear weapons and urging Iran to be 
more forthcoming with international efforts. Indonesia 
welcomed the Obama Administration's willingness to 
engage in dialogue with Iran. Indonesia stood ready to 
help. 
 
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BILATERAL HEALTH ISSUES 
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23. (C) Wirajuda expressed hope that Indonesia and the 
United States would reach agreement regarding avian- 
influenza sample sharing. Multilateral negotiations 
were ongoing in Geneva, and Indonesia was ready to 
conclude a parallel bilateral arrangement with the 
United States. 
 
24. (C) On the U.S. Naval Medical Research Unit (NAMRU- 
2) in Jakarta, Wirajuda stressed the need for a new 
memorandum of understanding that was transparent and 
fair, and that provided equivalent benefits to both 
sides. 
CLINTON