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Viewing cable 08HANOI1044, U) Deputy Secretary Negroponte's September 11, 2008

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08HANOI1044 2008-09-12 08:51 2011-08-30 01:44 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Hanoi
VZCZCXRO1389
OO RUEHCHI RUEHCN RUEHDT RUEHHM
DE RUEHHI #1044/01 2560851
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
O 120851Z SEP 08
FM AMEMBASSY HANOI
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 8436
INFO RUEHHM/AMCONSUL HO CHI MINH IMMEDIATE 5100
RUEHZS/ASEAN COLLECTIVE PRIORITY
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 HANOI 001044 
 
SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE FOR EAP/MLS 
 
TAGS: OVIP NEGROPONTE JOHN PREL PGOV AMGT CONS MARR CH VM
SUBJECT: (U) Deputy Secretary Negroponte's September 11, 2008 
conversation with Vietnam Vice Minister of Public Security Nguyen 
Van Huong 
 
HANOI 00001044  001.2 OF 002 
 
 
SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED.  FOR INTERNAL USG USE.  NOT SUITABLE FOR 
INTERNET POSTING. 
 
1.  (U)  September 11, 2008; 14:00; Hanoi, Vietnam. 
 
2.  (U)  Participants: 
 
U.S. 
The Deputy Secretary 
Ambassador Michael Michalak 
Deputy Assistant Secretary Scot Marciel 
PolCouns Brian Aggeler 
D Special Asst. Kaye Lee 
D Special Asst. Ted Wittenstein 
Jane Bocklage (Embassy Notetaker) 
 
Vietnam 
Vice Minister of Public Security Nguyen Van Huong 
MPS Senior Colonel Dao Tam Chau 
MPS General Security Deputy Director General To Lam 
MFA Director General Nguyen Ba Hung 
MFA Assistant Director Americas Department Le Chi Dung 
 
3. (SBU) SUMMARY.  Meeting September 11, the Deputy Secretary and 
Vietnam's Vice Minister for Public Security (MPS) Nguyen Van Huong 
expressed pleasure at the continued development of a strong 
bilateral relationship.  VM Huong offered contradictory views on the 
expansion of the Ho Chi Minh City (HCMC) consular district denying 
that the Government of Vietnam places restrictions on diplomats' 
movements, but complaining about meetings with dissidents.  He 
requested that U.S. diplomats "notify" the MPS and local officials 
in advance of "sensitive" meetings.  VM Huong expressed his views on 
China's territorial claim in the South China Sea and lamented the 
lack of U.S. support for Vietnam's position.  Huong said the 
Minister of Public Security Le Hong Anh planned to visit the U.S. in 
the near future. END SUMMARY. 
 
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HO CHI MINH CITY CONSULAR DISTRICT 
---------------------------------- 
 
4. (SBU) The Deputy Secretary urged Vietnam to recognize ConGen Ho 
Chi Minh City's (HCMC) full consular district, assuring VM Huong 
that consulate officers have no hidden agenda when they travel 
outside of Ho Chi Minh City.  VM Huong acknowledged that the work of 
U.S. diplomats was not a threat, but noted that southern Vietnam has 
regions with "special characteristics," including areas with a high 
concentration of ethnic minorities, particularly Khmers.  The 
consular district expansion must take into consideration these 
special characteristics.  When pressed, Huong denied that Vietnam 
restricts the work of diplomats and insisted that U.S. diplomats 
from Hanoi and HCMC can go where they want to go.  He said this was 
the first he had heard of the problem. 
 
5. (SBU) At the same time, Huong asserted that the MPS often hears 
complaints from local officials regarding U.S. diplomats' meetings 
with local people.  Highlighting recent meetings by officers in HCMC 
with political dissidents, Huong explained that local authorities 
believe such meetings are counterproductive, encourage unlawful 
activities, and demonstrate U.S. support for activities against the 
government.  Huong said that national level MPS officials understand 
the U.S desire to meet with such people, but noted the need to 
respect local authorities.  Huong requested that the U.S. inform 
local authorities in advance of all such meetings and suggested that 
there be a direct and official line of communication to inform MPS 
of U.S. meetings with "sensitive individuals."  The Deputy Secretary 
explained U.S. diplomats around the world meet with all different 
types of people in the societies where they are posted.  Huong noted 
that while trust is growing between the U.S., the U.S. must 
understand that there are still Vietnamese who are sensitive about 
the role of the U.S.  He committed to engage with the Ambassador on 
this issue. 
 
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REGIONAL SECURITY AND THE SOUTH CHINA SEA 
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6.  (SBU) Huong expressed the view that regional security, peace and 
prosperity cannot be accomplished without the presence of the U.S., 
adding that the U.S. presence can help regulate relationships in the 
region.  He emphasized that Vietnam seeks good relations with all 
countries, particularly its neighbors; however, Vietnam cannot 
accept China's territorial claims in the South China Sea.  Offering 
strong MPS support for the upcoming dialogue on defense issues in 
October with Assistant Secretary Kimmitt, Huong hoped the dialogue 
would include an in-depth discussion of this issue.  In response to 
Huong's lament that the U.S. does not take a position on the South 
China Sea, the Deputy Secretary underscored that the USG does 
 
HANOI 00001044  002.2 OF 002 
 
 
support the right of U.S. businesses to carry out legitimate 
business with Vietnam. 
 
MICHALAK