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Viewing cable 06BAKU1010, EUR DAS MATT BRYZA AND TURKISH ENERGY ENVOY MEET

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06BAKU1010 2006-07-12 13:20 2011-08-30 01:44 CONFIDENTIAL Embassy Baku
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BAKU 001010 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SIPDIS 
 
DEPARTMENT FOR EUR/CARC AND EB/ESC 
DEPT OF ENERGY FOR FE - SWIFT AND OS - WILLIAMSON 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/19/2016 
TAGS: ENRG ECON EPET EFIN PREL KZ RU TR
SUBJECT: EUR DAS MATT BRYZA AND TURKISH ENERGY ENVOY MEET 
SOCAR MARKETING VP ELSHAD NASIROV 
 
REF: BAKU 736 
 
Classified By: Charge d'Affaires Jason P. Hyland, reasons 1.4 (b), (d) 
and (e). 
 
1. (C) SUMMARY.  EUR DAS Matthew J. Bryza and Turkish MFA 
Special Energy Envoy Ambassador Mithat Balkan met with Elshad 
Nasirov, Vice President (marketing) of Azerbaijan's State Oil 
Company (SOCAR) on June 7 to discuss development of a new 
"Southern Corridor" to help Europe diversify gas supplies 
from the Caspian.  Nasirov said that while Azerbaijan's 
number one priority is assuring adequate domestic supplies, 
Azerbaijan could certainly export gas volumes to Europe. 
Eventually, Nasirov added, Central Asian gas volumes could 
join this southern corridor, most likely from Kazakhstan. 
Nasirov agreed that the project needs to move quickly, in the 
face of Gazprom's rising prices and the prospect of 
Kazakhstan obligating its volumes to China.  Nasirov also 
expressed concern that Turkey would want to buy and resell 
the Azerbaijani gas at potentially non-commercial prices 
rather than allow the gas to transit for a set fee.  Nasirov 
pointed out that such a Gazprom-like approach would render 
the southern corridor non-viable.  On the Inter-Governmental 
Agreement for trans-Caspian oil between Kazakhstan and 
Azerbaijan, Nasirov said that the demands of international 
investors to settle all outstanding issues in this document 
were "excessive." END SUMMARY. 
 
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A NEW VISION:  THE SOUTHERN GAS CORRIDOR 
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2. (C) DAS Bryza, accompanied by Charge, S/P consultant Steve 
Hellman and Energy Officer, began the meeting by discussing 
the reinvigorated strategic partnership between the United 
States and Turkey, including energy, and symbolized by the 
joint presence of DAS Bryza and Ambassador Balkan.  DAS Bryza 
described the vision of a new "southern corridor" to bring 
Caspian gas resources to Europe, specifically bringing 
Azerbaijani gas to Greece, and introduced S/P consultant 
Steve Hellman as someone with extensive commercial experience 
who would provide subject-matter expertise.  DAS Bryza said 
it is important for Azerbaijan to "win the race" with Gazprom 
for access to markets in Italy and Greece, with Greece being 
the greater priority, by getting Azerbaijani gas into the 
Turkey-Greece-Italy Interconnector (TGI).  Ambassador Balkan 
echoed this, pointing out that Azerbaijan could secure 
serious market share in the future by making small, symbolic 
sales now. 
 
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AZERBAIJANI ENERGY POLICY - MARKET ACCESS, DOMESTIC NEEDS 
--------------------------------------------- ------------ 
 
3. (C) Nasirov responded by relating Azerbaijan's energy 
policy to its geostrategic position as a small country stuck 
between two powerful neighbors - "it is difficult to be the 
meat in the hamburger."  BTC made sense for Azerbaijan - not 
only politically, he stressed, but economically.  Nasirov 
pointed out that sending Azerbaijani oil either through 
Russia or Iran would have placed that oil in direct 
competition with Russian and Iranian volumes for limited port 
and shipping facilities.  Only through BTC had Azerbaijan 
been able to achieve access to the international market.  BTC 
has the added benefit of being a Bosphorus bypass and assists 
in stabilizing Georgia (a country, Nasirov dryly noted, which 
seems "an ideal illustration of Trotsky's concept of the 
permanent revolution"). 
 
4. (C) When it comes to gas, Nasirov said that Azerbaijan's 
first priority is to satisfy its domestic needs (after 
meeting its existing commitments to Georgia and Turkey).  He 
related again the story of how in 2005 Gazprom officials 
unilaterally altered their negotiated gas sale agreement with 
Azerbaijan from a price of USD 60 per cubic meter to a price 
of USD 110 per thousand cubic meters (reftel).  Nasirov noted 
that some in Azerbaijan have advocated buying more Iranian 
gas as a quick way of reducing dependence on Russian gas, but 
as "the Iranians have been trading for three thousand years," 
it is doubtful that their price will be any better than 
Russia's.  Iran now supplies gas to Azerbaijan's exclave of 
 
BAKU 00001010  002 OF 002 
 
 
Nakchivan in exchange for Azerbaijani electricity to northern 
Iran, Nasirov said.  Nasirov added that Iran still "owes" 
some gas to Azerbaijan, and at the Kiev GUAM summit, it was 
proposed that this "returned" gas from Iran be funneled to 
Georgia - but the Georgians and Iranians have to first agree 
on price.  Nasirov pointed out that Azerbaijan plans to 
increase its own domestic, non-Shah Deniz gas production by 1 
bcma in any event. 
 
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GAS EXPORT LIKELY BUT NOT WITH A "TURKISH GAZPROM" 
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5. (C) Nasirov said that he does not see Azerbaijan's 
domestic gas needs preventing Azerbaijan from becoming a 
major gas exporter.  However, Nasirov expressed concern about 
the possibility that Turkish state pipeline company BOTAS 
would buy and resell Azerbaijani gas rather than allow the 
gas to transit Turkey.  Nasirov pointed out that there is no 
point building a new gas route to avoid the Gazprom monopoly 
if Turkey functions as a "second Gazprom."  Ambassador Balkan 
said he would convey these thoughts to Ankara. 
 
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KAZAKHSTAN THE MOST LIKELY CENTRAL ASIAN PARTNER 
--------------------------------------------- --- 
 
6. (C) Nasirov said that Kazakhstan should eventually be 
added to the proposed southern gas corridor, and once a 
Kazakhstan-Azerbaijan gas pipeline is built it could also 
carry Turkmenistani or Uzbekistani gas.  However, echoing a 
common Azerbaijani theme, Nasirov pointed out that Kazakhstan 
is tied to Russia in many ways and therefore must move 
gradually on this project.  The addition of Central Asian gas 
to Azerbaijan's gas volumes, said Nasirov, could provide 
enough gas to supply not only the TGI but also the Nabucco 
project.  Nasirov agreed that speed is vital for two reasons. 
 One is that Gazprom will continue to increase its gas prices 
to Azerbaijan.  The other is that Kazakhstan could end up 
obligating all its available gas (which Nasirov estimated as 
50-60 bcm) to China.  Nasirov added that he does not feel 
Turkmenistan is a realistic possibility for gas export under 
its current leadership and that he does not expect that 
situation to change for some time. 
 
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IGA FOR TRANS-CASPIAN OIL 
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7. (C) DAS Bryza noted that there is some concern that the 
draft IGA for trans-Caspian oil between Kazakhstan and 
Azerbaijan is insufficiently attentive to investor concerns. 
Nasirov responded that the international partners had made 
excessive demands that everything be settled in the IGA in 
order to start investments.   Nasirov said he had talked to 
Kazakhstan's Deputy Energy Minister Kiinov who had agreed 
that the pre-existing text had been "all about the 
investors."  Nasirov pointed out that the HGAs would yet be 
negotiated and the IGA and HGA would be signed as a package. 
 
8. (U) DAS Bryza has cleared this cable. 
HYLAND