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Viewing cable 06QUEBEC41, BLOC QUEBECOIS INTERNALLY DIVIDED OVER AFGHANISTAN

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06QUEBEC41 2006-03-28 14:58 2011-08-30 01:44 CONFIDENTIAL Consulate Quebec
VZCZCXRO4367
PP RUEHGA RUEHHA RUEHVC
DE RUEHQU #0041/01 0871458
ZNY CCCCC ZZH
P 281458Z MAR 06
FM AMCONSUL QUEBEC
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 0710
INFO RUCPDOC/USDOC WASHDC PRIORITY 0007
RUCNCAN/ALL CANADIAN POSTS COLLECTIVE
RUEHQU/AMCONSUL QUEBEC 0749
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 QUEBEC 000041 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SIPDIS 
 
CORRECTED COPY - "SIPDIS" ADDED 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL:  3/28/2016 
TAGS: PREL MARR ECON PGOV CA
SUBJECT: BLOC QUEBECOIS INTERNALLY DIVIDED OVER AFGHANISTAN 
 
 
QUEBEC 00000041  001.2 OF 002 
 
 
CLASSIFIED BY: Abigail Friedman, Consul General, Quebec City, 
State. 
REASON: 1.4 (b), (d) 
 
 
 
CLASSIFIED BY: Abigail Friedman, Consul General, Quebec City, 
State. 
REASON: 1.4 (b), (d) 
 
 
 
1. (c) Summary: A Bloc Quebecois (BQ) MP told CG March 22 that 
Bloc members fiercely debated BQ leader Gilles Duceppe's 
decision not to object in the coming parliamentary session to 
Canada's military presence in Afghanistan.  Discussion within 
the party on Afghanistan is not yet closed.  Other priority 
issues for the Bloc will include: CIA planes; softwood lumber; 
the environment; WHTI; missile defense; mad cow; and dairy 
product regulations.  The Bloc, with the deciding vote, will 
seek to work with the Conservatives, according to our contact, 
and will not take on the minority government until it is time to 
bring them down. End summary. 
 
2. (c) In a meeting with CG in Quebec City, March 22, a Bloc MP 
stated that the following would be priority issues for the party 
in the coming Parliamentary session (in no particular order): 
 
-- Afghanistan 
-- the environment (Kyoto) 
-- CIA planes 
-- softwood lumber 
-- missile defense 
-- WHTI 
-- mad cow 
-- milk products 
-- internet pharmacies 
 
On matters relating specifically to Quebec, the Bloc will focus 
on: 
 
-- fiscal imbalance 
-- the environment 
-- day-care 
-- Quebec's place in the world 
 
Afghanistan 
----------- 
 
3. (C) The Bloc MP said there had been a huge debate over what 
position the Bloc should take on Afghanistan during the party's 
most recent caucus gathering.  Several Bloc members are still 
seething from Gilles Duceppe's decision not to object to 
Canada's military presence there. (Comment: Duceppe is well 
known for his firm, at times less-than-democratic approach to 
running his party. End comment.) While Duceppe made the call, he 
apparently has agreed to allow the matter to be discussed again 
at the next caucus meeting. 
 
4. (U) According to the party's public statements, "The BQ in no 
way calls into question the legitimacy of the mission that was 
confided to the Canadian military upon its departure for 
Afghanistan but we believe the parameters of this mission have 
evolved since that time.  In transferring from Kabul to 
Kandahar, they (Canadian troops) are going to be called upon to 
play a role that is less and less defensive and more and more 
offensive in nature....  The Bloc is fully aware that Canada has 
committed itself before the international community and the 
Afghan govt. to be present until the beginning of next year and 
that it is unthinkable to withdraw from one day to the next. 
This engagement is even more important as the Canadian military 
has now assumed the command of NATO forces in the south of 
Afghanistan. We believe nonetheless that the evolution of the 
situation as well as that information is only reaching the 
population in dribbles, amply justifies that this matter be 
submitted for discussion in parliament in the coming weeks." 
(Consulate translation.) 
 
Other Matters of U.S. Interest 
------------------------------ 
 
5. (c) On other matters, our contact said that the Bloc would 
call for an investigation of alleged CIA planes transiting and 
stopping in Canada.  The Bloc also is watching closely the 
softwood lumber debate between the U.S. and Canada, which our 
contact agreed needs to be resolved through negotiation. 
Finally, the Bloc also will track Quebec/Canadian subsidies in 
the dairy sector that may come under U.S. scrutiny.  The Bloc 
wants to protect these subsidies, considering them "necessary" 
to the survival of the industry. 
 
QUEBEC 00000041  002.2 OF 002 
 
 
 
 
Canada/Quebec Relations 
----------------------- 
 
6. (c) The Bloc MP indicated to CG that Duceppe is seeking 
harmony with the Harper government.  The Bloc has the deciding 
vote and when the Bloc goes against the Conservatives, "it will 
be to bring the government down." Until then, our contact 
expects the Bloc will seek to find commonalities rather than 
differences with the ruling party.  Our contact expects the 
coming Parliamentary session to be much more manageable than the 
previous session under the Liberals.  "The Conservatives may 
have positions that the Bloc does not share, but the Bloc at 
least has a pretty good idea of what these are. With the 
Liberals, you never knew whether they meant what they were 
saying." 
 
7. (c) On specific Quebec-Ottawa issues, our contact said that 
the Bloc will be sounding out various Quebec stakeholders in the 
coming months on fiscal imbalance; the environment; day-care; 
and Quebec's place in the world.  The Bloc is looking for Harper 
to honor the agreement of the previous Liberal government to 
fund Quebec daycare. As for Quebec's place in the world, the MP 
was skeptical that the Prime Minister would be able to live up 
to his promise for Quebec to have a seat at UNESCO.  After all, 
if UNESCO agreed, what would happen when other provinces, 
states, and regions of the world then asked for the same thing? 
 
Comment 
------- 
 
8. (c) While the Bloc has the deciding vote in the next 
parliament, it  wants to avoid bringing the government down and 
triggering elections even more than PM Harper and the ruling 
party.  The Bloc has not yet digested its loss of ridings in 
Quebec and the Conservative's gains.  The series of Bloc 
meetings with Quebec "stakeholders" is just the beginning of 
what will likely be a long process of the Bloc's trying to 
figure out what went wrong and how the party can rebuild 
support. 
FRIEDMAN